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Serious question for Obama supporters

Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:19 pm
I am truly curious as to why the President feels the need to discuss at every opportunity American's domestic problems before international audiences.

Today in his address at the UN he brought up what happened in Ferguson a few months ago.

What do you think he hopes to accomplish by doing this? Is he trying to say that the US lacks the moral authority to be the leader of the free world? How many times does he need to do it?

And I'll just add this little tidbit. I think that's one reason there are so many who question his birth/religious faith.

There's never been a President whose done anything like this before, especially on such consistent basis.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:37 pm to
I would say he's trying to find common ground with other countries. Instead of saying we're awesome and we know it, he's saying we have a lot of problems too, just like you guys.

I'm not an Obama supporter by the way... it's just what I feel he's trying to do.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20895 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:38 pm to
Because he has got a big fricking mouth.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:39 pm to
Thanks for your reply. That is certainly plausible.

Not saying it's the right thing to do. Just that I can see the logic behind the thinking.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:45 pm to
Definitely not an Obama supporter. No American President should air dirty laundry when addressing a world delegation. Domestic issues should not be addressed on a world wide stage.....only international issues. Much like dinner conservation discussing family matters is not expected to take place when guests are over.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72942 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

I would say he's trying to find common ground with other countries. Instead of saying we're awesome and we know it, he's saying we have a lot of problems too, just like you guys.


We do have a lot of problems.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

We do have a lot of problems
and a lot of those problems are because of policies and decisions made by 545 people in Washington D.C.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Domestic issues should not be addressed on a world wide stage.....only international issues. Much like dinner conservation discussing family matters is not expected to take place when guests are over.





I concur.



And anybody who says "well we do have a lot of problems" can kiss my fuzzy arse.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

and a lot of those problems are because of policies and decisions made by 545 people in Washington D.C.


545+1 (EOs can circumvent the 545 sometimes).
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

I would say he's trying to find common ground with other countries.


Yep, and trying to downplay the American exceptionalism that has grown tiresome to many folks abroad.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

And I'll just add this little tidbit. I think that's one reason there are so many who question his birth/religious faith.


Haven't heard the speech so can't comment on it, however, I don't understand you comment above. What does Ferguson have to do with Obama's religious faith or his place of birth? Why would this speech lead someone to question birth/religious faith?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81639 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

I am truly curious as to why the President feels the need to discuss at every opportunity American's domestic problems before international audiences.


I don't have a problem with it, but I realize that some people into power dynamics think you should never concede flaws or weakness.

I would think that it's probably not the best idea to publicly state such things, but rather to say them in confidence to other leaders during one-on-one meetings.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

What does Ferguson have to do with Obama's religious faith or his place of birth? Why would this speech lead someone to question birth/religious faith?

Today it was Ferguson. In other speeches, it's other American flaws. It's such a foreign thing to see an American President repeatedly mentioning America's flaws and shortcomings. No President has ever done that before. Especially before a group, a large majority of whom are in power by brute force, and whose Human Rights records are dismal. It suggests that there is a moral equivalence between nations such as those with the US.

The only conclusion some of these people can come to is that the President is not really "American" or is a Muslim because he seems to go out of his way to bring up these topics, and to defend Islam. It's not as if the American people have been on a rampage against Muslim Americans.

Again this such an anomaly that people conclude that Mr Obama can't really be "American".
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