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What is your shotgun pellet preference for self defense?

Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:26 am
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:26 am





master.00 buckshot blaster checking in
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 8:29 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:34 am to


Preferably the one with razor blades.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:37 am to
Wouldn't the only real choice for any true OB'er be a .410 Judge?
Posted by TexasTiger
Katy TX
Member since Sep 2003
5324 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:40 am to
12ga 2 3/4" #4 BS ... good number of pellets moving at a good clip.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:44 am to
I think I want a spreader round. Self defense in the home is close range. Shotgun shells need a little range to open up, otherwise bird shot is like a slug...
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:44 am to
That
Posted by aVatiger
Water
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

I think I want a spreader round. Self defense in the home is close range. Shotgun shells need a little range to open up, otherwise bird shot is like a slug...



well, wick.. you fall under what i refer to as the, Larry Theory, my dad and i's good buddy and retired 35+ year Va game biologist who insists that shooting someone with .04 buckshot is,"like blasting someone with 17 .22 bullets!!1 And you can't tell me that is less effective in a home defense situation than .00 buchsot.."



this theory has been debated between us over a campfire while drinking beer many of times


And as much as i hate to give to the ol' boy, he is sorta right..
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:49 am to
#6 hihg brass
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:52 am to
Without knowing the armor status of the target, I like birdshot, #4 to #6, for an inside situation where overpenetration of walls (neighbors in an apartment, kids in their rooms) is a paramount risk.

I know there are very smart people that are adamantly opposed to this philosophy. However, I like it as the first round, at least, for this reason:

First round in the middle of the night ought to wake up everybody, neighbors, etc. Hopefully, everyone hits the deck. Also, I'm more likely to be firing a reaction shot the first round in a gunfight. It ought to be my least accurate.

As the fight progresses, I might have 00, 000 or even slug later in the cylinder. Why? Because the others didn't work, and we might be exchanging fire from cover at that point - so I will want a round of increasing lethality and penetration as the fight wears on.

Maybe I'm overthinking it...
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Wouldn't the only real choice for any true OB'er be a .410 Judge?



only if it is the ragin judge magnum and you say"Judge to the face", when you blast their head off
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:57 am to
I think birdshot is an excellent choice for home defense. My shotgun is loaded with birdshot at the house right now. I'm obviously talking about for home defense ranges 7 yds roughly. Over penetration is a very big factor in that decision and birdshot is a devastating round at close range. Shot 8 12 GA rounds at a piece of paper from 7 yds and watch how big that hole will be.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:58 am to
Right now I think I have 3.5" Hevishot blend (5,6,and 7)in mine.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:58 am to
In a close quarters gun fight #6 and a slug will have the same spread.



Accuracy will still be an issue within a home with #6
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:59 am to
The Skittles. Modebinately the Skittles.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:01 am to
but a slug will penetrate every house in the neighborhood. Birdshot wouldn't go through the second wall.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12739 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:06 am to
What Ace said. My first round is a #4. After that it is 4 rounds of OO buckshot.
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1192 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:07 am to
LINK

Pitbull shotgun shells. 00-Buck topped with a 1oz. slug.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:08 am to
quote:

As the fight progresses, I might have 00, 000 or even slug later in the cylinder. Why? Because the others didn't work, and we might be exchanging fire from cover at that point - so I will want a round of increasing lethality and penetration as the fight wears on.



i'm just loaded with .00 and slugs on my ammo vest/belt for penetration
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Pitbull shotgun shells. 00-Buck topped with a 1oz. slug







nice
Posted by Shexter
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:36 am to
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The Firearms Tactical Institute reports:

"Number 1 buck is the smallest diameter shot that reliably and consistently penetrates more than 12 inches of standard ordnance gelatin when fired at typical shotgun engagement distances. A standard 2 ¾-inch 12 gauge shotshell contains 16 pellets of #1 buck. The total combined cross sectional area of the 16 pellets is 1.13 square inches. Compared to the total combined cross sectional area of the nine pellets in a standard #00 (double-aught) buck shotshell (0.77 square inches), the # 1 buck shotshell has the capacity to produce over 30 percent more potentially effective wound trauma. In all shotshell loads, number 1 buckshot produces more potentially effective wound trauma than either #00 or #000 buck. In addition, number 1 buck is less likely to over-penetrate and exit an attacker's body."

Generally available candidates include:
•Remington Express Buckshot 12B1 (1250 fps, 16 pellets #1 Buck).
•Remington Express Buckshot 12B0 (1275 fps, 12 pellets #0 Buck).
•Winchester Super-X XB121 (1250 fps, 16 pellets #1 Buck).



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