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When do you trust the government and why?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:26 pm
This isn't meant as some gotcha or should be seen as anyway partisan.
My question is, what are your criteria for when you trust what they are telling you?
For example, some people immediately dismiss financial reports from government agencies, but they fully trust the military and what they are telling us.
Some people immediately disregard government agencies in regards to climate change, yet they fully trust the pentagon.
Some people distrusted the pentagon before, yet they fully trust them now.
Why is this? Why do certain agencies earn your trust, yet not others? Why did you disregard certain agencies before, yet believe them now?
The only agency I actually trust is the CDC. It appears to be the least partisan and the least influenced by politics.
My question is, what are your criteria for when you trust what they are telling you?
For example, some people immediately dismiss financial reports from government agencies, but they fully trust the military and what they are telling us.
Some people immediately disregard government agencies in regards to climate change, yet they fully trust the pentagon.
Some people distrusted the pentagon before, yet they fully trust them now.
Why is this? Why do certain agencies earn your trust, yet not others? Why did you disregard certain agencies before, yet believe them now?
The only agency I actually trust is the CDC. It appears to be the least partisan and the least influenced by politics.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:28 pm to Scruffy
I trust everything government tells me. Why would they lie?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:29 pm to Scruffy
I trust them unt TXtiger tells me not to
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:34 pm to Scruffy
I work for them Trust me, trust nothing.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:35 pm to Scruffy
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Why is this? Why do certain agencies earn your trust, yet not others? Why did you disregard certain agencies before, yet believe them now?
People trust things that align with their preconceived notions, and vice versa.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:38 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:And the government's job is to mold those preconceived notions.
People trust things that align with their preconceived notions
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:38 pm to Scruffy
Probably the best quote regarding this
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Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities — the political, the religious, the educational authorities — who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing — forming in our minds — their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.i
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:44 pm to Scruffy
When would I have a choice to trust them and what influence do I have over it? There are always unseen agendas. Not all of them are harmful. You can vote out politicians but not the bureaucrats that continue in the employ of government regardless of the political leanings of the administration.
I take it on a case by case basis.
I take it on a case by case basis.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:49 pm to Scruffy
Our government is not perfect, but for the most part, works for our best interests. Quite often, the complaining and allegations of conspiracy theories is over the top, but it's this freedom to question things that helps preserve the great opportunity we have to live in this country.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:57 pm to LSUwag
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I work for them Trust me
Nope.
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trust nothing
Well shite
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:59 pm to Scruffy
quote:
This isn't meant as some gotcha or should be seen as anyway partisan.
My question is, what are your criteria for when you trust what they are telling you?
For example, some people immediately dismiss financial reports from government agencies, but they fully trust the military and what they are telling us.
Some people immediately disregard government agencies in regards to climate change, yet they fully trust the pentagon.
Some people distrusted the pentagon before, yet they fully trust them now.
Why is this? Why do certain agencies earn your trust, yet not others? Why did you disregard certain agencies before, yet believe them now?
The only agency I actually trust is the CDC. It appears to be the least partisan and the least influenced by politics.
For the most part I don't think the stories are complete fabrications but I think there are big components of the story that are left out. What is left unsaid with most of the reports are our motives and long term strategies. Here is where most of the deception by omission takes place. We just assume that our motives are ernest and altruistic and as a result we become willing victims.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:02 pm to PVnRT
quote:This has little to do with "conspiracy theories". Not everything is one.
Our government is not perfect, but for the most part, works for our best interests. Quite often, the complaining and allegations of conspiracy theories is over the top, but it's this freedom to question things that helps preserve the great opportunity we have to live in this country.
This isn't questioning the nefarious plots, or anything of that regard.
It has to do with when you accept something as truth and when you don't.
Why is the report that the military bombed a group who was planning on attacking the USA with toothpaste bombs something we should trust?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:03 pm to Scruffy
I have done a complete 180 in my life about that very question. I used to believe that government (just a collection of politicians and bureaucrats) always truly had the best interest of the citizens it serves at heart.
Now, no matter the person in government, my first instinct is ALWAYS "I don't trust that mother fricker".
Oh, and why don't I trust them? Because every single "solution" seems to be, in some way, "more government".
Now, no matter the person in government, my first instinct is ALWAYS "I don't trust that mother fricker".
Oh, and why don't I trust them? Because every single "solution" seems to be, in some way, "more government".
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:05 pm to stuntman
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Now, no matter the person in government, my first instinct is ALWAYS "I don't trust that mother fricker".
Pretty much my philosophy with everyone I deal with...until proven otherwise.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:10 pm to Scruffy
Either you believe them on that or you don't. When it comes to the military and national security, not everything is going to be divulged. Everything we say is heard by our enemies. I'm sure that we sometimes say things with the intent on misdirecting those who are trying to harm us. But I honestly believe that the Pentagon, military, CIA, etc work to protect our interests.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:19 pm to PVnRT
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ut I honestly believe that the Pentagon, military, CIA, etc work to protect our interests.
But if you are a hammer then everything looks like a nail. The older I get the more this adage is usually true.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:21 pm to Robin Masters
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But if you are a hammer then everything looks like a nail. The older I get the more this adage is usually true.
Can you give me an example when these agencies did not act in the best interest of American citizens.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:23 pm to Robin Masters
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:26 pm to PVnRT
The military is bombing Syria. That's not acting in my best interest.
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