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Pay attention to HOW you pay for Disability Insurance

Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:17 pm
This is sort of a spinoff from something that came up in another topic on another board. It's a given that every young professional should have disability insurance. I'd actually like to see a show of hands in here for how many DON'T have disability insurance. I bought my disability insurance straight out of dental school, and I thoroughly researched it beforehand (so well, in fact, that one of the agents got in trouble with the state board for misrepresenting the policies of his competitor). Disability insurance cost me less than my car insurance. Just think about that for a second - you can insure your life-long income for less than you can insure a 20,000 car. Most don't think they will ever become disabled and postpone buying it for that reason. Yet while your need for car insurance is only a car wreck away, your need for disability insurance may be that same car wreck away.
Back in the early '90s, I was able to get a fantastic own-occupation policy that I think would be hard to get today. I was able to initially insure about 70% of my income, but I had built in automatic increases of about 15% of my benefits that kicked in every 2 years for about 7 or 8 terms, regardless of income (unless I refused them). I also had built in options that were income-dependent. I went on disability for the first time following my neck surgery. Even after going on disability for that, I was still able to increase my benefits by about 50%, despite it being a near certainty that I would return to long-term disability, which I was forced to do. The lesson here is to pay close attention to any available riders to your policy, and take full advantage of what is offered.
The most important factor was that I paid for my policy out of pocket with post-tax dollars. I ran my practice as a sub-s corp, and if I had paid for the policy through my company, my benefits would have been taxable. However, I chose to pay with my after-tax income. This cost me a few hundred extra dollars each year. However, doing so made my benefits tax free. Those extra few hundreds each year ended up saving me tens of thousands per year for the next 20 years.
I'm not an insurance salesman, but I am passionate about this subject because I've been through it. Don't put it off. Insure your income - your earning potential is your most valuable asset. And thoroughly research every available option before you buy. Here's a link for reference:
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Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55656 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 3:13 pm to
Glad it worked out for you

I'll be graduating in a few years and your posts on the OT ensured that I will get some kind of disability insurance.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48964 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 5:16 pm to
I don't have it. Been researching it though and plan to get soon
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:46 pm to
Good advice, but I want to clarify one thing.

Assuming you were a 2 percent shareholder in an S Corp, if you paid for your DI premiums inside the company, the company would have gotten a deduction, but, you would have had to include the premiums as gross income on your W-2 (meaning, you paid for it essentially with after-tax wages).

Assuming you were a sole shareholder S Corp, you would basically be in the same place as you were the way you did it (paying for it yourself outside of the company) and thus, you get to get the benefits tax free.

My DI poicy I have through our company, I pay with after-tax dollars. This is good advice to reccomend to everyone.

To your comparison with car insurance... many people buy liability insurance only because the government requires it as a condition of driving.

I had to chuckle when you said you were not a salesman. I know of a guy who was a dentist, who got a DI policy once he started practicing. He developed a disability that caused him to have to end his dental career. He was so impressed with the DI policy that he started a second career as a salesman for that insurance company, a large one, has become one of the top agents in the company, and makes probably at least triple a year what he would make as a dentist.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:23 pm to
That very well may be the guy who I unintentionally got in trouble with the state board. He was a former dentist who hung it up after a tumor in his back and started selling DI insurance. When I was discussing the policy with my agent, I said, "But his policy has this and yours doesn't have this, this, and this." He was like "WTF are you talking about?" I pulled out the comparison sheet the former dentist gave me, and it was full of erroneous information. My agent was pissed and reported him to the board. I felt bad, because he was a pretty cool guy and I was just trying to make an informed purchase. I had no idea it would be a big deal.
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