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Turn the offense over to Cameron

Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:54 am
I have had enough of the junior high type of offense that we have run for years. Every opponent knows what we will do and will just load the box. I do believe in running the ball, but when the defense is deployed in a way to take that away, you go to the passing game. Think about this, we sent Mettenberger, Landry, Beckham, Hill, Turner, Blue, etc. as offensive players to the NFL yet we struggled to a 5-3 SEC record last year. It is time to get rid of the two and three tight end sets and spread the field to run and throw. We do not have the talent on offense to run the ball down people's throats. Our offensive line is not that good period; the talent level there is below par. Give up the offense Les or move on. I respect what you have accomplished at LSU, but the old school approach to offense will not work.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:54 am to
oooooooooooook
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:56 am to
This is Cameron's offense. He made it clear to Les that he wouldn't take the job unless he had total control. If he had an issue with the way things were, Cam would have bolted after last season.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 9:57 am to
Why? Dude was fricking fired at his last job.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:00 am to
This isn't his offense. This is Miles' offense of the Jefferson years.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2638 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:02 am to
He was fired because they felt he was throwing too much and not feeding Ray Rice enough. I'd say we have the opposite problem, which leads me to believe Miles has his hands all up in the offense right now.
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:04 am to
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This isn't his offense. This is Miles' offense of the Jefferson years.


It's the one toe in the old and one in the new... With commitment to both... = neither. My daughter, who knows zip about football knew everything LSU was doing on both sides of the ball except the trick plays... We're rutted in ego that says we're bigger and more powerful than you are... Miss State threw us around like rag dolls.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 am to
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This is Cameron's offense.


two TE's and a WR with FB is not cam's offense
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 am to
You are right. Who else is major college runs this typed of offense? The answer is very few. Look at the systems run by A&M, Ole MIss, Alabama (yes they are much more wide open than us), Auburn, etc. LSU and Florida are pretty much in the same boat in terms of offensive systems. I do not want to stop running the ball, but I do want to spread the field and run a more modern offense.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 am to
Problem is we still have to play 8 games this year. Not sure we can change philosophies successfully entering our toughest part of the schedule. Oh and CLM will never give up the I
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56329 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 am to
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This isn't his offense
What is Cams offense?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:06 am to
He might be calling the plays but it's very clear that miles chooses the type of scheme we run.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:07 am to
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, which leads me to believe Miles has his hands all up in the offense right now.


we saw it last night when harris came into the game

offense was COMPLETELY different
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:09 am to
quote:

This is Cameron's offense. He made it clear to Les that he wouldn't take the job unless he had total control. If he had an issue with the way things were, Cam would have bolted after last season.


I want to believe that. I really do. However this offense looks strikingly similar to 09-10 under Crowton, and 11-12 under Stud.

Now I don't think Les is "calling the plays", but he is dictating the very conservative approach. It was just enough in 09-12 when you had a dominant D. That has changed though. LSU has been very weak in the front 7 for two years now. The O is going to have to come out of their comfort zone if they want to compete in a very good, very balanced SEC West. If the HC doesn't realize that, then you're looking at the last place SEC West team
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 10:10 am
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:10 am to
Yes, we have to go with Harris. I know he will struggle, but he has talent. I am sorry to say that Jennings does not. What really surprises my about Jennings is his total lack of speed and/or quickness. I also think he has trouble going through progressions.
Posted by RadTiger
Member since Oct 2013
1121 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:13 am to
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I have had enough of the junior high type of offense that we have run for years. Every opponent knows what we will do and will just load the box. I do believe in running the ball, but when the defense is deployed in a way to take that away, you go to the passing game. Think about this, we sent Mettenberger, Landry, Beckham, Hill, Turner, Blue, etc. as offensive players to the NFL yet we struggled to a 5-3 SEC record last year. It is time to get rid of the two and three tight end sets and spread the field to run and throw. We do not have the talent on offense to run the ball down people's throats. Our offensive line is not that good period; the talent level there is below par. Give up the offense Les or move on. I respect what you have accomplished at LSU, but the old school approach to offense will not work.


Name one real football play. I dare you. And spider y banana doesn't count.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:13 am to
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two TE's and a WR with FB is not cam's offense


Yes this is his offense. It's the same look we ran last year and it was more sophisticated pro-style I formation offense than we ran the year before. We just don't have an NFL QB, 2 NFL WR's, & an NFL lineman playing guard.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:16 am to
Hey RadTiger, I coached at the highest level in high school football for a team that won a state championship; jam it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:17 am to
I want the best QB to play. However what evidence is there that Harris would do any better than Jennings when put in the same scenario? BH came in when MSU was in prevent and just trying to run out the clock, and LSU had to spread it out and throw. If he starts, do you really think Les and co. change the offense? I don't. That poor kid would have as little a chance to play to his strengths as AJ does.
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