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Why isn't spiking the ball to stop the clock intentional grounding?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:34 pm
I've always wondered this, how is it written in the rules to permit the QB to throw the ball at his feet intentionally and not be grounding?
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Item 3: Stopping Clock A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if, immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball directly into the ground.
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Item 4: Delayed Spike A passer, after delaying his passing action for strategic purposes, is prohibited from throwing the ball to the ground in front of him, even though he is under no pressure from defensive rusher(s).
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Grounding is done to avoid a sack.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:36 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
QB wasn't in danger of being sacked
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:37 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
being able to spike increases the offense
THANKS GOODELL
THANKS GOODELL
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:39 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Same reason the holder is not considered down even though he has the ball and his knee down
There's an exception
There's an exception
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:40 pm to castorinho
Good stuff, thanks
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:40 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
So it would loss of down and half a yard? Not a big deal
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:41 pm to genro
Yeah, I figured that... Just wanted to see how it was written in the rules.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:42 pm to genro
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Same reason the holder is not considered down even though he has the ball and his knee down
You're not down when your knee is down in the NFL.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:43 pm to genro
Also, I believe if the holder wanted to throw a forward pass, the ball must touch the ground first before the holder can attempt the pass.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:47 pm to Kevin TheRant
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Also, I believe if the holder wanted to throw a forward pass, the ball must touch the ground first before the holder can attempt the pass.
Michigan State fake field goal against Notre Dame, bro.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:47 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I've always thought a PAT (or 2-point conversion) should be 2.5 yards instead of 3. If it's supposed to represent one play, 4 downs = 10 yards. Maybe the D is supposed to have a bigger advantage. 
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:50 pm to TigerintheNO
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Grounding is done to avoid a sack.
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QB wasn't in danger of being sacked
Haha, back to back wrong answers. You can be called for grounding even if you're not in danger of being sacked
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:56 pm to Tiger1242
Outside the tackles AND the ball must go beyond LOS are the college rules. Same in NFL?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:25 pm to Tiger1242
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Haha, back to back wrong answers. You can be called for grounding even if you're not in danger of being sacked
No, you are mistaken.
Official Rules of the NFL, Rule 8-3-1
Article 1 Definition
It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.
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