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The NFL doesn't actually have a domestic violence or crime problem

Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:18 pm
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:18 pm
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Stark, who has a Ph.D. in sociology and works on criminal cases involving domestic violence, says the level of abuse in the NFL and other professional sports is no higher than that of similar age groups in the general population. Statistics from the USA Today NFL Arrests Database support his claim.

Six NFL players have been arrested on charges of domestic violence since the start of the 2013 season, including Peterson’s recent arrest for child abuse. Dating back to 2000, the NFL’s domestic violence arrest rate is significantly lower than that of the national average.

Based on the approximate 2,560 players that are on NFL teams in training camp and the regular season, Benjamin Morris of FiveThirtyEight reports that the league’s arrest rate for domestic violence is just 55.4 percent of the national average. Of the 1,696 players that are currently on NFL rosters, 0.7 percent have been arrested for domestic violence in the last nine years, per NBC News.

Across the board, NFL players are arrested far less frequently than the general public, with the league’s arrest rate coming in at just 13 percent of the national average for men between the ages of 25 and 29. When looking at specific crimes, though, domestic violence rates are closer to the national average than anything else.

After domestic violence, nonviolent gun-related and sex-offense crimes are closest to the national average. NFL players are arrested for those crimes at a rate of 45.2 percent and 38.2 percent of the national average, respectively, compared to 55.4 percent of the national domestic violence arrest rate.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:19 pm to
But the media won't let facts get in the way.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

The NFL doesn't actually have a domestic violence or crime problem


I agree; however I contend that the NFL created the perception that they do have a crime problem
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:20 pm to
listen, bub

there is no room for evidence or statistics when you're dealing with emotional-irrational thinkers
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:22 pm to
Oh, genro, you just don't get it. WE WANT THEATER! WE WANT DRAMA! WE WANT CONTROVERSY! SCANDAL!

Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17096 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:22 pm to
My outrage is really faux right now, I don't have time for data.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175698 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:23 pm to
When cops aren't shooting dogs they're covering up crimes by athletes for tickets


FACT
Posted by Jwho77
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:23 pm to
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the NFL created the perception that they do have a crime problem


The NFL has created the perception that they do not know how to handle employee discipline on serious non-work related transgressions.

To paraphrase James Carville, "It's the (lack of) leadership, Stupid."
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:23 pm to
General public get booked, released and goes to court most times without the employer ever knowing anything about the case. First offenders usually receive probation and have to complete anger management classes.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
I don't think the NFL has a domestic violence problem.

I think the NFL has a PR and handling of the cases and punishments problem.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34865 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

The NFL doesn't actually have a domestic violence or crime problem


I never thought they did.

My issue has always been the NFL's poor handling of the problems they actually have had.

I also don't really find it surprising that people with more money commit less crimes.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:28 pm to
The average population doesn't have the responsibility of being in the public light for their job either
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:29 pm to
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I never thought they did.

My issue has always been the NFL's poor handling of the problems they actually have had.

I also don't really find it surprising that people with more money commit less crimes.
The NFL, under Goodell, is shitty and reactionary about handling any kind of controversy. That much is known.

Now let's figure out where the outrage comes from. There's a mis-perception somewhere. I don't want to say that feminists are racists, but feminists are racists.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
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Now let's figure out where the outrage comes from. There's a mis-perception somewhere. I don't want to say that feminists are racists, but feminists are racists.



Can you blame them? Frederick Douglass left them hanging.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Now let's figure out where the outrage comes from


who cares? The outrage for everything will always be there...don't open the front door and invite it in


oh, and lying doesn't help


catering to the world of political correctness only makes you more vulnerable to becoming its next victim
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

The NFL doesn't actually have a domestic violence or crime problem


They actually do have a problem because perception says they have a problem.

This study is also VERY misleading. I want to know the national average for men their age that make their level of income. NFL players are educated over and over and over and over again that these actions have very serious consequences because they are public figures. Lumping those people in with the general uneducated public isn't proving anything.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34865 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I don't want to say that feminists are racists, but feminists are racists.




Hardcore feminists are just the fricking worst.

Social media is to outrage as gasoline is to a forest fire.

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:40 pm to
Do we have statistics measuring the preferential treatment that athletes receive? That skews any number downward in the NFL's favor.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Do we have statistics measuring the preferential treatment that athletes receive? That skews any number downward in the NFL's favor.

Rich people everywhere in every community get preferential treatment.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 3:42 pm to
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genro


Great post.
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