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Is this a harbinger of Hillary Clinton's Presidential chances
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:54 am
In the past week every time a puff piece touting Hillary Clinton shows up on Yahoo I have been responding with the following comment to challenge the article.
I have received 180 likes and 12 dislikes. I would expect Ms. Clinton to get more than 10% of the votes, but does the fact that 90% of respondents seem to be united in opposition to her signify her chances of winning the White House are very low. Or does it indicate the low information voters who would support her have no interest in political commentary and just vote in herd fashion, so only informed and intellectually curious readers read the article and particiopate in commentary?
Oh, look its the daily puff piece designed to keep the Clinton brand before the low information electorate. What possible basis can be justified for this? Remember, this is a person who has not even declared her candidacy.
It is getting absolutely disgusting to see this continual fawning coverage yet no hard investigative reports on areas that could cast Hillary Clinton in a negative light. We do not need nor do we want Hillary Clintons' opinion on every damn thing that occurs in this country. We see through your motive, this is just free advertising that you biased pathetic media minions provide.
How about an inquiry into Benghazi ? why not ask her direct and pointed questions about her role in the Benghazi incident both prior to and after the attack. The whole Susan Rice media tour fiasco is rife for serious investigation the media sycophants refuse to conduct.
How about asking her what are her accomplishments in the roles of Senator and Secretary of State that would qualify her for the Presidency. She has name recognition from being married to the former President. Absent that role what would justify America electing anyone with her own resume as President
I have received 180 likes and 12 dislikes. I would expect Ms. Clinton to get more than 10% of the votes, but does the fact that 90% of respondents seem to be united in opposition to her signify her chances of winning the White House are very low. Or does it indicate the low information voters who would support her have no interest in political commentary and just vote in herd fashion, so only informed and intellectually curious readers read the article and particiopate in commentary?
Oh, look its the daily puff piece designed to keep the Clinton brand before the low information electorate. What possible basis can be justified for this? Remember, this is a person who has not even declared her candidacy.
It is getting absolutely disgusting to see this continual fawning coverage yet no hard investigative reports on areas that could cast Hillary Clinton in a negative light. We do not need nor do we want Hillary Clintons' opinion on every damn thing that occurs in this country. We see through your motive, this is just free advertising that you biased pathetic media minions provide.
How about an inquiry into Benghazi ? why not ask her direct and pointed questions about her role in the Benghazi incident both prior to and after the attack. The whole Susan Rice media tour fiasco is rife for serious investigation the media sycophants refuse to conduct.
How about asking her what are her accomplishments in the roles of Senator and Secretary of State that would qualify her for the Presidency. She has name recognition from being married to the former President. Absent that role what would justify America electing anyone with her own resume as President
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:55 am to tigersbb
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How about an inquiry into Benghazi ? why not ask her direct and pointed questions about her role in the Benghazi incident both prior to and after the attack. The whole Susan Rice media tour fiasco is rife for serious investigation the media sycophants refuse to conduct.
Do yourself and your party a favor and drop this shite. It's toxic and is already boomeranging to hurt you. Nobody cared about Benghazi 12 months ago, let alone in 2 years when she's running for President.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:56 am to tigersbb
Could very well be.
But it depends on what harbinger means
But it depends on what harbinger means
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:56 am to tigersbb
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I have received 180 likes and 12 dislikes.
You're on Yahoo. You will probably see similar numbers on AOL grandpa.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:56 am to tigersbb
Yes. As this board has demonstrated time and again, upvotes received by conservative posters are extremely efficacious for determining the winners of national elections.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:00 am to SirWinston
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Do yourself and your party a favor and drop this shite. It's toxic and is already boomeranging to hurt you. Nobody cared about Benghazi 12 months ago, let alone in 2 years when she's running for President.
Since you obviously have the desire to help Hillary's opposition win, they should definitely take your opinion into consideration. Or, they could take it as you showing them what really scares you.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:01 am to CadesCove
quote:Yeah, they really, really shouldn't take it this way. There is no chance that Benghazi impacts any Democrat in any serious way in an election.
Or, they could take it as you showing them what really scares you.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:02 am to FT
He's commenting on yahoo, do you think yahoo news is predominantly conservative or that only conservatives are bothering to respond?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:03 am to SirWinston
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Do yourself and your party a favor and drop this shite. It's toxic and is already boomeranging to hurt you. Nobody cared about Benghazi 12 months ago, let alone in 2 years when she's running for President
The jury is still out on the Benghazi issue, but assuming you are correct please identify Mrs. Clinton's accomplishments in her roles as Senator and Secretary of State that would qualify her for the Presidency.
Living in the White House for 8 years is not a qualification. The White House staff can make that same claim.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:06 am to FT
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There is no chance that Benghazi impacts any Democrat in any serious way in an election.
You are probably right. And that may very well be what is wrong with the political system in this country as a whole right now. The utter lack of curiosity when criminal activities/cover ups by one group occur; while another group is destroyed over similar situations. Everyone should be held accountable for their record.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:10 am to Turbeauxdog
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only conservatives are bothering to respond
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:17 am to CadesCove
The thrust of my commentary was not the Benghazi issue, but the failure of the media to challenge Mrs. Clinton the way they have treated every Republican candidate over the last decade. Every time one gets traction you can count on the negative articles or the innuendo commentary. Classic example was the attempt to paint Rick Perry as racist because of a family property that years ago had a racially derogatory name.
Instead the media gives Mrs. Clinton a venue to comment on every issue which is essentially free advertising for over two years thereby keeping the Clinton brand in the forefront. This is an incredible advantage. They never challenge her which amounts to endorsement of her position.
Then when the Republicans nominate their candidate we can expect a full scale assault over every belief , position, family dynamic, interviews with some guy he allegedly beat up in junior high, vacation trips with the dog on the roof of the car, etc etc.
Does the overwhelming support for my comment indicate the country is more anti Clinton than the press admits or is it just that more people are prone to "like" comments they agree with and not hit the dislike ebutton if they don't.
Instead the media gives Mrs. Clinton a venue to comment on every issue which is essentially free advertising for over two years thereby keeping the Clinton brand in the forefront. This is an incredible advantage. They never challenge her which amounts to endorsement of her position.
Then when the Republicans nominate their candidate we can expect a full scale assault over every belief , position, family dynamic, interviews with some guy he allegedly beat up in junior high, vacation trips with the dog on the roof of the car, etc etc.
Does the overwhelming support for my comment indicate the country is more anti Clinton than the press admits or is it just that more people are prone to "like" comments they agree with and not hit the dislike ebutton if they don't.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:22 am to SirWinston
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Nobody cared about Benghazi 12 months ago
You'd really like to believe that, wouldn't you?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:27 am to tigersbb
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The thrust of my commentary was not the Benghazi issue
It is just a perfect example of the whole problem.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:34 am to tigersbb
quote:without knowing the ideologies of your facebook friends, it's impossible to say with certainty. However, i think the far more likely answer is simply that you associate with people similar to yourself, who thereby have similar political leanings.
I have received 180 likes and 12 dislikes. I would expect Ms. Clinton to get more than 10% of the votes, but does the fact that 90% of respondents seem to be united in opposition to her signify her chances of winning the White House are very low
But one "survey" of 200 people who think similarly to you does not indicate anything about the overall attitude of the country. The country's overall population is almost certainly more heterogenous than any one person's network of friends (yours included), so i'd venture a guess that you are simple seeing the result of a very strong selection bias, not the conclusion you reached
Aside from that, as mentioned by a prior poster, you need to drop the benghazi thing for now. If gowdy pulls up something, it can be discusses then. But at this time, trying to link hillary to benghazi, from a liberal's prospective, is a complete non starter. They see that and are going to assume your one of those crazy right wing extremist and just ignore whatever it is you say (which could also be another reason for the low liberal response).
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:53 am to funnystuff
Benghazi has been investigated numerous times and Congress has produced rheems of paper reports. It has been overinvestigated. At this point, it is merely a partisan witch hunt to call for yet more investigations. But the ignorant Far Right continues to blather about it. Blather on.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:27 pm to funnystuff
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without knowing the ideologies of your facebook friends, it's impossible to say with certainty. However, i think the far more likely answer is simply that you associate with people similar to yourself, who thereby have similar political leanings. But one "survey" of 200 people who think similarly to you does not indicate anything about the overall attitude of the country. The country's overall population is almost certainly more heterogenous than any one person's network of friends (yours included), so i'd venture a guess that you are simple seeing the result of a very strong selection bias, not the conclusion you reached Aside from that, as mentioned by a prior poster, you need to drop the benghazi thing for now. If gowdy pulls up something, it can be discusses then. But at this time, trying to link hillary to benghazi, from a liberal's prospective, is a complete non starter. They see that and are going to assume your one of those crazy right wing extremist and just ignore whatever it is you say (which could also be another reason for the low liberal response).
this was not a Facebook lovefest. These were about 6-8 posts on articles on Yahoo regarding Ms. Clinton.
The issue is not Benghazi per se, it is just one that the media did not press her on. Regardless of its merits, had this been Condeleeza Rice ther would have been wall to wall coverage by all media.
I assume these are all random posters on Yahoo.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:31 pm to tigersbb
The count is now 328 likes and 20 dislikes. I don't believe Mrs. Clinton is very popular like the media would have you believe
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:32 pm to tigersbb
The count is now 328 likes and 20 dislikes. I don't believe Mrs. Clinton is very popular like the media would have you believe
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