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Do 2 TE's on running plays make that big of a difference?

Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:24 pm
It seems like that only having one WR is a bad formation. We rarely, if ever, throw out of that. So, the safeties creep up to the line and LBs look to attack. With only one WR we are telegraphing our intent.

Why does having 2 TEs on those plays make a difference? The ball is going one direction to the outside or up the middle. Does having 2 TEs cause the defense to respect both sides? Wouldn't another WR be more effective? Plus, if you have a FB, you still have a lead blocker.

I just don't see what we gain from the one WR/2 TE sets, unless we might throw it to a TE on occasion to mix things up.

Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:27 pm to
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It seems like that only having one WR is a bad formation


Yep.

..and when we run PA out of it, it's a one receiver pattern. Cover him and the play is dead.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:27 pm to
The colts ran on the eagles all night last night with an unbalanced line to the weak side. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you can run better where less people are.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:30 pm to
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..and when we run PA out of it, it's a one receiver pattern. Cover him and the play is dead.


Assuming neither tight end nor either back runs a route out of the backfield...
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:31 pm to
Yes it does. It's the difference between a 2ypc avg and 4ypc avg.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6887 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:32 pm to
Seems like the coaching staff really likes Jeter. I suppose he's a solid blocker, but they haven't thrown a single pass to him yet. But I know they really have barely looked at any TE's, since the two bad experiences in the opener vs. Wisconsin.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:32 pm to
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Assuming neither tight end nor either back runs a route out of the backfield...


We ran it vs ULM.

Everyone was in and no one went out except the WR.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:35 pm to
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TE's, since the two bad experiences in the opener


Tight ends were targeted three times in that game.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29953 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:35 pm to
it just brings more players to the box. I don't understand why we can't run out of the spread
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:37 pm to
Our O-line getting zero push makes the difference.

But lol at everyone screaming about us needing to "spread it out" like it's a game of a Madden.
Posted by FAF
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:40 pm to
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But lol at everyone screaming about us needing to "spread it out" like it's a game of a Madden.


By spread out, we mean draw players out of the box.

If we are in a 3 WR formation, it draws an extra guy out of the box and it's 5 vs 6.

7 vs 9 when it's 2 TE and I formation is way to many asses to avoid for any sizable gain. Hill did it last year, but his vision is much better (right now) than anyone in our backfield.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:41 pm to
Cam ran a lot of unbalanced line one year with the Ravens. I believe it was 2010.

Cam's playing possum. This offense will look much different in the coming weeks.
Posted by SuperTigerMan
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:42 pm to
Um its more linemen (big boy blocking) either side you decide to run. You can flex out a CB or S outside or inside, depending on what he gives you.

Posted by LSshoe
Burrowing through a pile o MikePoop
Member since Jan 2008
4001 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:42 pm to
Perhaps one of the resident rant statisticians would like to ypc per formation for us.

Edit: not it!
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:43 pm
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:43 pm to
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Perhaps one of the resident rant statisticians would like to ypc per formation for us.


When we spread Wisconsin out in the 2nd half, we ran all over their asses.

Not so much when we didn't.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

It seems like that only having one WR is a bad formation


Yep.

..and when we run PA out of it, it's a one receiver pattern. Cover him and the play is dead.



You guys are football ignorant
Posted by jaxtiger18
In Cognito
Member since Sep 2013
174 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:44 pm to
How dare you question coach Bo Schembechler!
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43068 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:45 pm to
Unfortunately after 3 games, what you see is what you get. There is NO secret play book.
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:45 pm to
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You guys are football ignorant



I watched PA out of it on Saturday.

No one was out in a pattern except the WR. We are running max protect to help AJ right now. Will it change in the future? Who knows?
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