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Peyton Manning and Josh Gordon; for Demarco Murray, Joique Bell, Romo
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:23 pm
I would give Peyton and Gordon. 10 man league, .5 ppr, 4 points per TD and one per 25 yds passing.
My RB's currently are Gore, Spiller, Vereen, Pierce, Fred Jackson.
WR's: DT88, Alshon, Cruz, Tate
I currently have Philip Rivers to plug in as starter at QB and place Romo as backup.
It's extremely tempting. I went in not expecting for Manning to be in the mix though.
My RB's currently are Gore, Spiller, Vereen, Pierce, Fred Jackson.
WR's: DT88, Alshon, Cruz, Tate
I currently have Philip Rivers to plug in as starter at QB and place Romo as backup.
It's extremely tempting. I went in not expecting for Manning to be in the mix though.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:26 pm to ChewyDante
I'm of the opinion you win this.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:28 pm to ChewyDante
You win easily.
Accept if offered.
Accept if offered.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:30 pm to ChewyDante
Do it.
Murray is looking like the best back in the league right now.
Murray is looking like the best back in the league right now.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:31 pm to ChewyDante
You easily win that trade.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:53 pm to ChewyDante
I'd take the trade. Manning hasnt been outscoring Rivers by much and Murray is a fantasy stud. Although I would ask for a wideout to replace losing Gordon.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:58 pm to ChewyDante
I'd be too afraid of Murray's injury proneness to do that
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:05 pm to ChewyDante
You win that trade in a landslide. Pull the trigger.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:17 pm to mkibod1
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I'd take the trade. Manning hasnt been outscoring Rivers by much and Murray is a fantasy stud.
That was my thinking as wee, except I know Peyton can maintain that. Not so sure about Rivers.
And Demarco's injury proneness also troubles me though I know that's such an unpredictable and chancy kind of thing.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:22 pm to ChewyDante
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That was my thinking as wee, except I know Peyton can maintain that. Not so sure about Rivers. And Demarco's injury proneness also troubles me though I know that's such an unpredictable and chancy kind of thing.
Gordon will probably play this year, but pleading guilty to DWI may make him miss more games. Gordon is more of a gamble than Murray's health. The kicker is Joique in the deal. He has good value. Youre getting a top 7 QB, a top 3 fantasy back and a potential high end no.3/no.2 RB in Joique. If Bush gets hurt he's high end no.2/no.1.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:27 pm to dnm3305
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pleading guilty to DWI may make him miss more games
He has been assured that will not happen. He would not have pled guilty if it meant more suspension.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:29 pm to ChewyDante
after looking at it, i wouldnt do it.
sure, Demarco Murray is going to start for you. But is Joique Bell? you already said Tony Romo isn't
now Murray looks like the best back in the NFL right now. Dude is super talented. But lets face, he'll likely get hurt at some point. That hurts his value.
If you would need a RB2, then i'd say do it. But i wouldnt start Joique over Vereen in a PPR league. And him & Gore are near identical in value. So do you really need him? I say no.
I realize TD passes are only 4pts, but Peyton is on another torrid pace, He is clearly the #1 player in fantasy, even with 4pt TD.
so would I give up Peyton for Murray, naw. Not when my RBs are not that bad, & not when I'd be replacing him with Rivers or Romo.
sure, Demarco Murray is going to start for you. But is Joique Bell? you already said Tony Romo isn't
now Murray looks like the best back in the NFL right now. Dude is super talented. But lets face, he'll likely get hurt at some point. That hurts his value.
If you would need a RB2, then i'd say do it. But i wouldnt start Joique over Vereen in a PPR league. And him & Gore are near identical in value. So do you really need him? I say no.
I realize TD passes are only 4pts, but Peyton is on another torrid pace, He is clearly the #1 player in fantasy, even with 4pt TD.
so would I give up Peyton for Murray, naw. Not when my RBs are not that bad, & not when I'd be replacing him with Rivers or Romo.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:33 pm to ChewyDante
Say it with me...
FRICK TONY ROMO
Ah... I feel much better.
With that said, it is good value. But...
FRICK TONY ROMO
Ah... it's like the new woosah.
FRICK TONY ROMO
Ah... I feel much better.
With that said, it is good value. But...
FRICK TONY ROMO
Ah... it's like the new woosah.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:41 pm to Lester Earl
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But i wouldnt start Joique over Vereen in a PPR league
I dont see how you can say that when Vereen will throw out a stinker where he only gets 7 touches like he did last wk.
2 wks is a small sample size but -
Vereen 13 carries, 10 targets on the year
Joique 25 carries, 12 targets on the year
Joique is in the much better offense and is the workhorse in the committee and gets targeted just as much as Vereen does in the passing game if not more. He had 53 receptions last year. He also gets all the goaline work. He also plays 9 games inside a dome this year. I like Vereen this year too, and Im actually starting both of them on the same team this wk in a PPR, but I think Bell has considerably more value going forward.
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And him & Gore are near identical in value. So do you really need him? I say no.
Gore will get hurt. If anyone of all the backs being discussed will get hurt, the most likely is Gore. I know he's had a string of healthy seasons the last few, but before that he was very injury prone. And when is having depth a bad thing. He will need the depth as the season goes forward.
Murray, Joique, Gore, Spiller, Vereen, Pierce, Fred Jackson. That is a championship backfield that gives him alot of options throughout the season. He can then take a RB and possibly Rivers/Romo and try to upgrade to someone like Stafford.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:50 pm to Lester Earl
I agree with all of that. That's why I'm so torn on this. The only guaranteed starter I gain is Murray. So Romo simply gives me a solid backup QB and Bell adds depth at RB. I'm not terribly comfortable with Rivers at QB is my major concern. Peyton is almost a guaranteed 20 points per game avg. and Rivers can be hit or miss.
But if Rivers can maintain numbers like last year, the addition of Murray really bolsters my RB's and for minimal trade off with Peyton. Perhaps I could parlay another trade with my deeper bench for a better QB to then replace Rivers?
But if Rivers can maintain numbers like last year, the addition of Murray really bolsters my RB's and for minimal trade off with Peyton. Perhaps I could parlay another trade with my deeper bench for a better QB to then replace Rivers?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:51 pm to dnm3305
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I dont see how you can say that when Vereen will throw out a stinker where he only gets 7 touches like he did last wk.
you have to consider how the game flows. A lot of people don't pay attention to that. Im not going to write him off because they were blowing a team out, and his best asset(pass catching) wasn't needed.
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2 wks is a small sample size but -
Vereen 13 carries, 10 targets on the year
Joique 25 carries, 12 targets on the year
Right, and it's not a telling sign to you that Bell only has 3 more points then Vereen in PPR? Despite the difference in touches , esp carries?
I just like Vereen better & i think he'll finish the year with more points. In my original post I just said I wouldnt start Bell over him, but that doesn't mean they aren't close. Some might think Bell is more valuable, but he's not that much better that it makes sense to trade for him.
If im trading Manning, that 2nd player I get better be someone I can start with confidence over my other guys. Whether it be a RB, WR, or TE. I dont think that is the case here.
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before that he was very injury prone.
in college?
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That is a championship backfield that gives him alot of options
would give me a lot of headaches.
but yes, good point about another trade. That may be the best option. Still, in a 10 team league, the teams are stacked for the most part. good luck
Posted on 9/16/14 at 4:51 pm to ChewyDante
Manning finished 1st in my league last year in QB ranking. Rivers was 6th. Rivers has had a resurgence under Mike McCoy. And Murray may get injured, but you already have Gordon giving you nothing. If Murray is hurt anything less than 10 weeks, to me, its a win.
ETA: I agree with Lester, but you arent having to part ways with Vereen, which is why I said ask for a WR instead of Bell. If you can get a solid WR from it, it would be a win. Getting Bell would just be too many RBs.
ETA: I agree with Lester, but you arent having to part ways with Vereen, which is why I said ask for a WR instead of Bell. If you can get a solid WR from it, it would be a win. Getting Bell would just be too many RBs.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 4:56 pm
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