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Turkish PM: "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam."
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:03 pm
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Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan rejected attempts to call Turkey the representative of moderate Islam. "It is unacceptable for us to agree with such a definition. Turkey has never been a country to represent such a concept. Moreover, Islam cannot be classified as moderate or not," Erdogan said, speaking at Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies late Thursday.
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"It should be known that adopting a malicious and offending approach toward the sensitive issues of Islamic world by hiding behind some democratic freedoms like freedom of speech and right of free publication is unacceptable," he said.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:04 pm to genro
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Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
I despise him.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:06 pm to genro
Wasn't one of the usual suspects promoting this guy just recently?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:08 pm to Gray Tiger
All Muslim apologists hold up Turkey as a "secular" state and a model of "moderate Islam."
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:11 pm to genro
I wonder why he would take offense at Turkey being held up as a role model for the part of the Muslim world that is still struggling to marry Islam with democracy. By the way, Erdogan is offering refuge to all the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood members who were able to escape Egypt before Al-Sisi had a chance to imprison or kill them.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:12 pm to genro
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"The animosity, unfortunately, strengthens the scenarios that there is a so-called clash of civilizations in the world. Those, who defend such speculations, may go further to identify the terrorism with Islam which is based on peace," he maintained, adding that the situation helps those who try to globalize Islamophobia. Erdogan also wanted Western societies to be more open to cooperation and dialogue with the East. "It should be known that adopting a malicious and offending approach toward the sensitive issues of Islamic world by hiding behind some democratic freedoms like freedom of speech and right of free publication is unacceptable," he said.
A little more context.
In other words, dialogue helps us understand them and not criticize them as much. It is unclear what it does to them except allow them to continue on as they have for over a millenia.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:14 pm to the808bass
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All Muslim apologists hold up Turkey as a "secular" state and a model of "moderate Islam."
Do you deny that it is secular? Erdogan himself once spent six months in prison for praying in public and Turkey just recently lifted its ban on hard scarves in public buildings.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:18 pm to trackfan
Then his crack down on opposition media amd his near purge of the military are not true?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:20 pm to genro
You conveniently left out this paragraph:
So he is saying Islam is based on peace and people like you are attempting to associate terrorism with Islam and trying to globalize Islamophobia.
Thanks for linking the article. It's what I've been saying about you and your cohorts from the start.
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"The animosity, unfortunately, strengthens the scenarios that there is a so-called clash of civilizations in the world. Those, who defend such speculations, may go further to identify the terrorism with Islam which is based on peace," he maintained, adding that the situation helps those who try to globalize Islamophobia.
So he is saying Islam is based on peace and people like you are attempting to associate terrorism with Islam and trying to globalize Islamophobia.
Thanks for linking the article. It's what I've been saying about you and your cohorts from the start.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:21 pm to genro
Time for those frickers to give back occupied Constantinople.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:22 pm to Vegas Bengal
There are fewer more peaceful places than a cemetary.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:22 pm to trackfan
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Do you deny that it is secular?
I think their definition of "secular" and our definition of "secular" are worlds apart.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:23 pm to Vegas Bengal
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You conveniently left out this paragraph:
It doesn't help your argument.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:23 pm to trackfan
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All Muslim apologists hold up Turkey as a "secular" state and a model of "moderate Islam."
Do you deny that it is secular? Erdogan himself once spent six months in prison for praying in public and Turkey just recently lifted its ban on hard scarves in public buildings.
Turkey USED to be secular. In about the past 5-10 years, it's swung hard back the other way.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:24 pm to the808bass
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It doesn't help your argument.
I'm not asking for help. I'm agreeing with the Prime Minister.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:26 pm to Vegas Bengal
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I'm not asking for help. I'm agreeing with the Prime Minister.
You should ask for help.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:27 pm to the808bass
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You should ask for help.
I would if and when I am hit with a stroke and my mental capabilities fall to your level.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:29 pm to Vegas Bengal
:lolz:
Posted on 9/16/14 at 12:30 pm to genro
This is why the West should abandon the Middle East and tell Turkey, "Sorry about destroying your empire, think about who you ally with next time, now why don't you go and police your Muslim brothers, and get back to us in a couple of years on the whole issue of moderation."
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