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How great could a 30 for 30 from someone not ESPN be?

Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:53 am
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:53 am
30 for 30 is great imo and one of the few things espn does right anymore. But, ESPN, is a business with a lot of relationships with sports leagues that they can't afford to tarnish. Hard to fault espn from the perspective but...

There are so many stories that can't really be delved into deeper than the surface for ESPN.

I would love to see a 30 for 30 style show about the Ray Lewis murder investigation, the current NFL conduct policy and the seemingly ludicrous punishment policies, etc. just off the top of my head. What are some other potentially great documentaries you would love to see, sports-related, that espn would likely not ever touch?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:55 am to
It would be deadspin making 30 for 30's on why espn sucks and racebaiting movies
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:56 am
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:57 am to
I would certainly watch a documentary on how much of a joke espn has become.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:05 am to
Pony Excess and the one on the Manning's were excellence.

HBO could likely out together some high quality stuff
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:13 am to
They were mostly good, but some of them have been heavy-handed in ESPN's favor.

Fab Five was just a vehicle for ESPN employee Jalen Rose to take credit for everything that happened in college basketball in the 90s.

The U was a just a vehicle for Dan LeBatard to promote his flawed and obviously biased mythology about a criminal program.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:16 am to
I enjoyed the two escobars, they have only had a few duds. I think the fact that their ESPN gets them into a lot of places and gets a lot of people to talk about things they normally wouldn't talk about.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36610 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:16 am to
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Pony Excess and the one on the Manning's were excellence. HBO could likely out together some high quality stuff



Hbo has done a bunch of sports docs, a lot of them are very good.

The ESPN hate on here has gotten a bit stupid. Of course their day time tv sucks...all day time tv sucks
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:30 am to
quote:

The ESPN hate on here has gotten a bit stupid. Of course their day time tv sucks...all day time tv sucks


This isn't about an espn hatred. I stated I like the 30 for 30s. It's a reality that espn has to maintain good relations with NBA/NFL etc. They can't do very controversial things because of this, understandably so. But, as a fan it would be fun to see some of those stories
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27873 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:32 am to
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Fab Five was just a vehicle for ESPN employee Jalen Rose to take credit for everything that happened in college basketball in the 90s.

The U was a just a vehicle for Dan LeBatard to promote his flawed and obviously biased mythology about a criminal program.

No.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13571 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:50 am to
-HBO doing a documentary on Pete Rose and Michael Jordan's betting on games while they were playing/managing.

-Spygate and how the NFL covered it up

-"Pay to Play - Under the Table Money Trails in NCAA Football"

-"Professional Boxing - The Ultimate Reality TV Show Where Nothing is Real"

-"NFL's Dirt - How Much is Truly Covered Up and How the Media is Manipulated and Influenced to Manipulate"
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 7:56 am
Posted by TallMan
Member since Jul 2014
360 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:39 am to
You do realize that companies other than ESPN have made sports documentaries before, right?
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:01 am to
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Hbo has done a bunch of sports docs, a lot of them are very good.


Yeah, the one they did several years ago on the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry was incredible. I dislike both of those programs and the Big Ten in general, that was a great documentary.

It makes Roll Tide/War Eagle, which was terrible anyway, look like a high school book report.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 9:04 am
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17019 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:57 am to
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It would be deadspin making 30 for 30's on why espn sucks and racebaiting movies


I would watch this.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:58 am to
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Fab Five was just a vehicle for ESPN employee Jalen Rose to take credit for everything that happened in college basketball in the 90s.


quote:

No.


Yes. Yes he did.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:00 am to
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The ESPN hate on here has gotten a bit stupid


It's cool to hate ESPN nowadays. All these guys think they're cool and edgy.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10322 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:21 am to
quote:

I would love to see a 30 for 30 style show about the Ray Lewis murder investigation, ........ What are some other potentially great documentaries you would love to see, sports-related, that espn would likely not ever touch?


LOL....the first story they would never touch is the Ray Lewis murder investigation since Ray is now an ESPN employee.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by tonyperkis
Member since Jun 2012
748 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:40 am to
Multiple Sources: The ESPN Story
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18023 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:52 am to
Who did the "Beyond the Glory" shows a while back, those were pretty good
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31073 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:56 am to
While it is cool to hate espn, apparently the new hip thing to hate is the nfl.
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:00 am to
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