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2 Federal Reserve Banks report Obamacare is costing jobs

Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:26 pm
#Obamacare is resulting in job losses, according to two Federal Reserve Banks who survey businesses in their regions.

The New York Fed says 22% of manufacturing firms and 17% of service firms are employing fewer workers specifically because of Obamacare, while the Philadelphia Fed found 18% say they employ fewer workers because of Obamacare.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:27 pm to
links to surveys and summaries?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:28 pm to
Special Report Team ?@SpecialReport · 7m
#Obamacare is resulting in job losses, according to two Federal Reserve Banks who survey businesses in their... LINK

More tonight on #SpecialReport with Jim Angle--
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:28 pm to



Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:54 pm to
My GF just got hired to a restaurant as a hostess and they won't let her work more than 20 hrs a week due to not knowing if the employer mandate will kick in.

One restaurant in Starkville, Ms and they have 80 employees working 20 hours a week
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:59 pm to
That will be the new normal going forward, for larger businesses.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:59 pm to
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More tonight on #SpecialReport with Jim Angle--


Just more slanted reporting.

ETA: I see I got some downvotes. I guess you guys don't like puns over here.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:13 pm to
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Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:17 pm to
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One restaurant in Starkville, Ms and they have 80 employees working 20 hours a week



If this is true, the positive spin on 80 jobs created will be entertaining.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:30 pm to
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My GF just got hired to a restaurant as a hostess and they won't let her work more than 20 hrs a week due to not knowing if the employer mandate will kick in.



Fail.
The employer mandate is for 30 hours a week.


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One restaurant in Starkville, Ms and they have 80 employees working 20 hours a week



Fail again. If they employed 49 people for 33 hours a week they would not be subject to the employment mandate. If they employed 55 employees for 29 hours a week - they also would not be subject to the mandate. So basically the only combination of hours and employee numbers that would make them have to comply is if they have between 50 and 54 employees working the 1600 total hours.

This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Plan 9
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:25 am to
I'm still trying to figure out what me and the wife are going to do with the extra $2500 we are going to save every year on our healthcare costs.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:49 am to
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extra $2500 we are going to save every year on our healthcare costs.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:14 am to
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SpidermanTUba




By your own admission, you are admitting Obamacare is preventing job creation. Way to go genius.

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So basically the only combination of hours and employee numbers that would make them have to comply is if they have between 50 and 54 employees working the 1600 total hours.


I'm sure you know these things because you are a business owner.

Let me educate you. My cousin works at chimes. Once Obamacare was enacted, they cut her hours. SO she now has 2 jobs. She is working roughly a split of 20/20 at both restaurants. SO as the first poster said, it is very plausible that this happens. Your complete lack of understanding of the employer mandate, shows your incompetence.

Think of it from a business owners standpoint, or as you call them, the enemy. You own a restaurant, but the labor for waiters is not highly skilled labor, and has a the highest turnover rate of any job in the country. So why would you pay insurance in the first place? Sure you pay it for some of your longtime workers, but you aren't going to give insurance to every college kid looking for a job while they are in school. It is not economically feasible and makes bad business sense.
Now, you add in the detrimental cost of Obamacare to this scenario. You are now MANDATED to pay for insurance if you have over 50 full time employees. Yet, under Obamacare a full time employee is anyone working an average of 30 hours or more a week, in a given month. Not 40, as the left claim.

SO why are employers cutting off work time to 20 hours? Because if you keep a smaller payroll for, let's say, 29 hours, then that employee will find it hard to supplement the lost time by working 11 hours/ week. No other employer will hire someone to work that little. By cutting all employee hours roughly in half, affords the employee to supplement their income with a 2nd job and get 40+ hours of work. So the employer is helping out it's employees by affording them the opportunity to get the full time hours they desire. Also, it gets away from an employee accidentally working a couple hours over, if they were scheduled for 29 hours a week, thus subjecting the restaurant to a penalty.

It's really staggering you can't comprehend this.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:30 am to
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I'm sure you know these things because you are a business owner.


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Let me educate you. My cousin works at chimes


Oh. Ok. Your cousin works at chimes. So I guess that makes you kinda like - a business owner, right?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:55 am to
You really do like showing the general public how stupid you are, don't you
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:00 pm to
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You really do like showing the general public how stupid you are, don't you



He certainly doesn't mind
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