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So it's safe to say that SJB is not worthy of a 2nd rounder?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:13 pm
I think we've established that PRob is the worst CB in the NFL.
so how is it SJB can't see the field? There are plenty of other rookie CBs playing in the league.
so how is it SJB can't see the field? There are plenty of other rookie CBs playing in the league.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 9:21 pm
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:15 pm to LSUzealot
You watched the same preseason games I did, he look ready to you?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:15 pm to LSUzealot
he's not ready for his baptistem of fire
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:20 pm to LSUzealot
quote:Yes, I believe draft picks are fully evaluated in terms of worth after two games.
So it's safe to say that SJB is not worthy of a 2nd rounder?
Especially when they don't play.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:21 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Yes, I believe draft picks are fully evaluated in terms of worth after two games.
Any evaluation that makes him worse than PRob is a poor one.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:21 pm to LSUzealot
Because he is worse than P-rob. Put that in your pipe and smoke it...
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:23 pm to LSUzealot
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Any evaluation that makes him worse than PRob is a poor one.
Really? You need to get with Payton and Ryan asap!!!! We can still turn this season around!
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:24 pm to LSUzealot
He's a project.
Like Armstead.
Armstead wasn't ready until late in the season.
It had nothing to do with how badly Brown was playing.
Like Armstead.
Armstead wasn't ready until late in the season.
It had nothing to do with how badly Brown was playing.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:44 am to Hoodoo Man
I love how every high draft pick we have has to be a project and cooks is the only exception that i can think of in the payton era. I think it's documented good enough that as long as Payton is here the defense will generally suck because of his lack of good judgment on defensive players in the draft
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 6:56 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:55 am to LSUzealot
No.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:13 am to goatmilker
I think he is a project who was overdrafted. The biggest concern is not his physical skills, but moreso his instincts. His ball skills are not good. That is concerning.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:00 am to LSUzealot
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So it's safe to say that SJB is not worthy of a 2nd rounder?
He's a project.
Everyone knew he was a project when we drafted him.
Everyone knew he wouldn't see the field except potentially in a dime or prevent situation.
Everyone knew he wouldn't be a potential starter for at least a year or two.
If you didn't know this, shame on you for not paying attention during the draft.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:25 am to Suntiger
He's the ONLY second rounder in the league who has been a healthy scratch.
Think about that one for a minute...
Think about that one for a minute...
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:33 am to Hoodoo Man
Using a 2nd round pick for a "project" that may never pan out is kinda stupid, IMO.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:52 am to Hoodoo Man
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It had nothing to do with how badly Brown was playing.
Not completely true. Brown's performance was bad enough to negate what doubt Payton had about Armstead starting. Would Armstead have started if Brown had held his own that game? Probably not.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:35 am to Alatgr
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Using a 2nd round pick for a "project" that may never pan out is kinda stupid, IMO.
THIS. 2nd round draft picks should be potentially immediate playing time picks. If you want to take someone like oh lets say Tavon Rooks in the 6th as a gamble then go for it
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:52 am to Larry
To be fair, I would probably not have wanted to see SJB thrown into the fire on the road against the Falcons or Browns. As crummy as P-Rob is, you gotta put the veteran weakest link out there in that situation, over the unproven rookie weakest link.
Come to think of it, this upcoming Adrian Petersen-less Vikings game with Matt Cassel, could be just the sort of game that might be good to work a rookie CB in, and introduce him to the pro game. Cassel is not going to be throwing any lasers or bombs, he's pretty inaccurate on deep stuff, and it will all be happening at a nice, slow tempo and very straightfoward, with nothing too flashy or deceptive. So that when either P-Rob or SJB gets endlessly picked on, they will usually know it is coming well in advance and have a chance to react or adapt to it. The Vikings without AP at home in the Dome, that's kind of more our speed.
Come to think of it, this upcoming Adrian Petersen-less Vikings game with Matt Cassel, could be just the sort of game that might be good to work a rookie CB in, and introduce him to the pro game. Cassel is not going to be throwing any lasers or bombs, he's pretty inaccurate on deep stuff, and it will all be happening at a nice, slow tempo and very straightfoward, with nothing too flashy or deceptive. So that when either P-Rob or SJB gets endlessly picked on, they will usually know it is coming well in advance and have a chance to react or adapt to it. The Vikings without AP at home in the Dome, that's kind of more our speed.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:54 am to SenatorJones
How's Jason Verrett doing? That's who I wanted.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:06 am to SenatorJones
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Come to think of it, this upcoming Adrian Petersen-less Vikings game with Matt Cassel
Petersen is playing
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:11 am to LSUzealot
I wish I could go back to pre draft talk.
Cooks is nice and all but even back then I kept saying we needa go cb early and often.
This whole next draft:
cb,lb,cb,cb,cb,lb,T
ETA: I'm not saying cooks wont be boss bc it seems he will, but can he play D or convince SP to run the ball over 30 times on the road when we are showing extreme success?
Cooks is nice and all but even back then I kept saying we needa go cb early and often.
This whole next draft:
cb,lb,cb,cb,cb,lb,T
ETA: I'm not saying cooks wont be boss bc it seems he will, but can he play D or convince SP to run the ball over 30 times on the road when we are showing extreme success?
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 11:15 am
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