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Tom Cruise misunderstood? FMs EoT thread spinoff

Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:37 pm
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:37 pm
What's the boards view on this. The complete article is long, but a good read. Shows how blown out of proportion this event was. Here are a few points. The first part of the story focuses on how Cruise took measures to distance himself from those seeking attention early in his career. Its a shame this happened to him really... Scientology aside, he seems misunderstood.

How YouTube and Internet Journalism Destroyed Tom Cruise, Our Last Real Movie Star
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A weird thing happens when people watch a viral video. In catching up with a cultural touchstone, the clip everyone's talking about at the water cooler, we assume we're on top of the whole story. After all, we've seen what everyone else has seen. Whatever gets edited out isn't part of the conversation.

Tom Cruise and Oprah talked on TV for 43 minutes. "Tom Cruise Kills Oprah" was 15 seconds. Even the longer YouTube clips of Cruise on Oprah's couch clock in at only four minutes. Yet it was the latter two that were shared, discussed and remembered.

With all context gone, we're judging soundbites of Cruise on a screen. We forget he was experiencing a live, long and loud interaction — a literal stage performance before a raucous crowd.

Harpo Studios seats 300 audience members, all of whom answered a questionnaire months before, listing their favorite actors. The show's producers try to match up their spectators with their guests. It's a recipe for good TV. "They want the bat-shite people," Tugman explains. "All those people that were in there were most likely picked because they're Tom Cruise fanatics."

That's why Tugman could hear their screams from the next studio over. It was his first day on the job, but during the next 200 episodes, it was the loudest audience he'd ever hear except for the crowd for George Clooney.

If you track down the full Tom Cruise episode on YouTube — only one user from Spain has bothered to upload it across four videos, thanks to the site's roughly 10-minute cap — the room is deafening. Oprah's first words to the live audience are, "OK. Let me just say you all are going to have to calm yourselves." They don't. They're on their feet jumping up and down. She has to ask them to settle down twice more before Cruise even walks onstage, and then the screams get even louder. Oprah starts screaming, too. If you listen closely, you can hear Cruise says, "Wow! Is it like this every day?" "No," Oprah says, shaking her head. After a full minute goes by, Oprah starts to look annoyed. "It's too much," she commands the audience. "Sit down, sit down."

Like a gladiator at the Coliseum, Cruise plays to that screaming room. When a fan in the crowd pumps both his fists in the air, Cruise pumps his back. When kneeling on the floor makes the audience holler, he simply keeps doing it.



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When Cruise finally stands and grabs her shoulders — the moment that was remixed into "Tom Cruise Kills Oprah" — it's while jokingly begging if they can talk about his new movie, War of the Worlds.

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It wasn't until after the show aired that Tugman realized he'd been a witness to pop culture history: Tom Cruise scaring Oprah by jumping on a couch. Says Tugman, "I heard about it as more of an Internet thing and was like, 'Oh my God, I was there for that.'?"

Except Cruise never jumps on a couch.

It is Oprah who seeds the idea that he should stand on it. She thanks Cruise for attending her recent Legends Ball, where she honored Rosa Parks and Coretta Scott King. "I turned and looked at one point and you were standing in the chair going, 'Yes! Yes!'?" she gushes to Cruise. "I loved that enthusiasm." Minutes later, he stands on the couch for a second, and after she and the audience cheer that, he does it again. When she continues pressing about if he wants to marry Holmes, he exhales, "I'm standing on your couch!" as if that's the answer he thought was enough. All told,
Cruise on the couch — the key image of what the gossip blogs deemed his meltdown — is less than three seconds of airtime.



This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:43 pm to
I'm not reading all that. If you think he's misunderstood or this is all a mistake go watch his acceptance speech for the award given to him by the church of scientology. Unedited.

He's crazy as a loony toon.

Hell of an actor though.

Risky Business
Mission Impossible
Rain Man
Jerry McGuire
Edge of Tomorrow
Top Gun
Tropic Thunder

ETA:
A Few Good Men
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66436 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:48 pm to
cruise is an outstanding actor
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:48 pm to
Interesting. You know, it is amazing how easily a person's public image is destroyed by 5 sec clips. Just look at Howard Dean.

I admit, I may have misjudged Tom Cruise and followed the trend as well.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9377 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:50 pm to
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scientology

Yeah I'm not even going to go there

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He's crazy

No question. I just think this whole couch-jumping thing kind of sprung him into negative light, and he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. May have even led to him getting more bad press than others in the business that practice scientology.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

admit, I may have misjudged Tom Cruise and followed the trend as well.

Watch this clip from his documentary. and rethink that statement.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:01 pm to
I'll watch it when I get home later.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8158 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:22 pm to
Tom Cruise going nuts was something everyone was waiting for. That is unquestionably not internet journalism "destroying" Tom Cruise. Nice try though, Tom Cruise's publicist.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36695 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:23 pm to
Looks like somebody is an Uncle Tom
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

cruise is an outstanding actor

He's such a good actor that even when you want to not like his performances, you pretty much do.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66436 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Watch this clip from his documentary. and rethink that statement.


Gaw. Creepy.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52617 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:29 am to
You forgot a few good men and eyes wide shut
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 2:00 am to
He's crazy, and it has nothing to do with Oprah. But a great actor regardless
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 2:04 am to
Tom Cruise did every single pool shot in The Color of Money with the exception if the jump shot despite being a complete novice.
Posted by TomyDingo
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2003
19434 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:38 am to
This was talked about on one of the Cracked podcasts. I like Cruise and think he does have some crazy beliefs, but feel he got unfairly treated because of that one Oprah show.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:18 am to
He's oh so mistreated.

Mistreat me with $20M a picture.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:32 am to
I hate that argument. Negative things happen to rich people. You can feel bad for them for something and not consider their money.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29390 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:45 am to
Was a fan before, still a fan now. Very few of his movies have I actually disliked. I even thought he pulled off Jack Reacher pretty well.

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