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The Discussion our Society needs to be having about Domestic Violence
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:45 pm
Obviously the Ray Rice domestic violence situation is a huge topic right now and has largely overshadowed almost anything else in sports, including the start of the NFL season. We have heard all the opinions on what should happen to Ray Rice and even what should happen to Roger Goodell. However, I want to approach this whole subject from a different perspective. It is my opinion that we are not having the discussion about domestic violence that we should be having and since it is such a relevant topic right now we need to have a hard honest conversation as a society about all domestic violence.
When we hear about domestic violence, what is the typical scenario? The typical scenario of course is a man beating a woman, typically his wife or girlfriend. With that said, what about domestic violence against men? Many studies have been concluded that domestic violence against men is one of the most underreported crimes in the country and that it is far more common than our society wants to believe. Simply put, just like we care about women's right far more than about men's rights, we only care about domestic violence when it is the women who is the victim. Why is this right?
Now many would say that men should come forward if they are a victim. We all know of course what the problem is, our society. When a woman is a victim of this horrible crime we rally around her and support her, when a man is a victim what do we do. We laugh at him, question his manhood and even worse, don't take it seriously. Both men and women are guilty of this. Just like many female rape victims don't say anything because they are ashamed, many male domestic violence victims don't say anything out of fear of how they'll be looked at. Why is this fair? Why do we accept this?
Lets look at a scenario and lets see how you all respond. Lets say a man reports that he was the victim of domestic violence by his girlfriend, who just happens to be a WNBA star or member of the US Women's Soccer team, or a Tennis star, whatever. Video comes out of this women beating and knocking her boyfriend out cold. Essentially the same thing as the Ray Rice situation, but simply reversing the genders. If this scenario happens, does it become a huge deal? Does it even make the news? My guess is it doesn't, or if it does it's easily swept under the rug and somehow it's made out to be the guy's fault, which to me is a very sad commentary on our society.
And this all goes back to how women manipulate our society. How many years now have the militant feminists and other women's rights groups roared out "I can do anything a man can do" or "anything a man can do a woman can do better" or "I don't need a man for anything." Yet when it fits them they want to go right back to the way it was in the 50s. They don't want the test for the marines to be as difficult for them as it is for men. They still want men to pay the whole bill for the first date. They want society to believe that domestic violence only happens against women. They want to keep those benefits but yet still be treated equal, they want it both ways.
So how can we even think we're having a serious discussion on domestic violence when we don't even recognize that men can just as easily be a victim of domestic violence as a women. When will we realize that we are ignoring the cries for help from the victims of an entire gender. I consider myself an average man, but I know women who do triathlons, women who do cross fit and kick boxing, women who work out regularly. Many of these women could probably kick my a** if they wanted to. Yet if one of these women were to attack me and I hit them back in self defense, we all know who the cops are going to arrest. We all know who is going to be portrayed as the criminal and who will be portrayed as the victim. This is the problem with our society on this issue and until we address this bias and this inequality we can not hope to have a serious discussion on domestic violence.
What do you all think? I'd be particularly interested to hear women's perspectives on this.
When we hear about domestic violence, what is the typical scenario? The typical scenario of course is a man beating a woman, typically his wife or girlfriend. With that said, what about domestic violence against men? Many studies have been concluded that domestic violence against men is one of the most underreported crimes in the country and that it is far more common than our society wants to believe. Simply put, just like we care about women's right far more than about men's rights, we only care about domestic violence when it is the women who is the victim. Why is this right?
Now many would say that men should come forward if they are a victim. We all know of course what the problem is, our society. When a woman is a victim of this horrible crime we rally around her and support her, when a man is a victim what do we do. We laugh at him, question his manhood and even worse, don't take it seriously. Both men and women are guilty of this. Just like many female rape victims don't say anything because they are ashamed, many male domestic violence victims don't say anything out of fear of how they'll be looked at. Why is this fair? Why do we accept this?
Lets look at a scenario and lets see how you all respond. Lets say a man reports that he was the victim of domestic violence by his girlfriend, who just happens to be a WNBA star or member of the US Women's Soccer team, or a Tennis star, whatever. Video comes out of this women beating and knocking her boyfriend out cold. Essentially the same thing as the Ray Rice situation, but simply reversing the genders. If this scenario happens, does it become a huge deal? Does it even make the news? My guess is it doesn't, or if it does it's easily swept under the rug and somehow it's made out to be the guy's fault, which to me is a very sad commentary on our society.
And this all goes back to how women manipulate our society. How many years now have the militant feminists and other women's rights groups roared out "I can do anything a man can do" or "anything a man can do a woman can do better" or "I don't need a man for anything." Yet when it fits them they want to go right back to the way it was in the 50s. They don't want the test for the marines to be as difficult for them as it is for men. They still want men to pay the whole bill for the first date. They want society to believe that domestic violence only happens against women. They want to keep those benefits but yet still be treated equal, they want it both ways.
So how can we even think we're having a serious discussion on domestic violence when we don't even recognize that men can just as easily be a victim of domestic violence as a women. When will we realize that we are ignoring the cries for help from the victims of an entire gender. I consider myself an average man, but I know women who do triathlons, women who do cross fit and kick boxing, women who work out regularly. Many of these women could probably kick my a** if they wanted to. Yet if one of these women were to attack me and I hit them back in self defense, we all know who the cops are going to arrest. We all know who is going to be portrayed as the criminal and who will be portrayed as the victim. This is the problem with our society on this issue and until we address this bias and this inequality we can not hope to have a serious discussion on domestic violence.
What do you all think? I'd be particularly interested to hear women's perspectives on this.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:47 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
quote:is that men need to stop hitting women.
The Discussion our Society needs to be having about Domestic Violence
Altho not to worry, dawgfan will be here soon to support you
Also, you suck at being a man.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:49 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
quote:
And this all goes back to how women manipulate our society.
How young are you
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:49 pm to Tigah in the ATL
I agree with you that men need to stop hitting women. Would you also not agree that women need to stop hitting men? it goes both ways or are you one of the people who actually believe that only women are victims of domestic violence?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:51 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
r/Redpill bitchfest, didn't read.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:52 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
I would slap the shite out of you right now..
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:52 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
OP almost makes a valid point.
Men don't beat women because they learned the behavior from their fathers beating their mothers.
They learned it from their mothers beating them
Men don't beat women because they learned the behavior from their fathers beating their mothers.
They learned it from their mothers beating them
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:52 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
Men and women are not equal. They are different.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:54 pm to genro
quote:
Men and women are not equal. They are different.
Damn right honcho
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:55 pm to genro
Genro I would dare you say that to a militant feminist group. They would say that women are completely equal to men and most likely would claim superiority. They would instantly hate you because they would assume by different you are saying inferior.
Now can we all treat this topic a little more seriously. This is exactly what I'm talking about, you all treat domestic violence against women so seriously and just laugh away at domestic violence against men. This is why women can't report when this crime has happened to them. This is why domestic violence against men is one of the most underreported crimes in our society. Is this really a joke to you all?
Would you be laughing if a male friend or family member had been a victim of domestic violence?
Now can we all treat this topic a little more seriously. This is exactly what I'm talking about, you all treat domestic violence against women so seriously and just laugh away at domestic violence against men. This is why women can't report when this crime has happened to them. This is why domestic violence against men is one of the most underreported crimes in our society. Is this really a joke to you all?
Would you be laughing if a male friend or family member had been a victim of domestic violence?
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:58 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:59 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
I am for equal treatment under the law, and all of you should be too. If Ray loses his job, then Ray's wife should lose her job for spitting on him.
Good for the goose.
Good for the goose.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:00 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
quote:Your OP did a pretty good job pointing our their hypocrisy. frick 'em. They're wrong.
I would dare you say that to a militant feminist group. They would say that women are completely equal to men and most likely would claim superiority.
quote:I was serious. Men and women are clearly not the same. We all apply a double standard in many different ways, because it's obvious they are not the same.
Now can we all treat this topic a little more seriously. This is exactly what I'm talking about, you all treat domestic violence against women so seriously and just laugh away at domestic violence against men. This is why women can't report when this crime has happened to them. This is why domestic violence against men is one of the most underreported crimes in our society. Is this really a joke to you all?
Would you be laughing if a male friend or family member had been a victim of domestic violence?
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:08 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
quote:
Would you be laughing if a male friend or family member had been a victim of domestic violence?
I'm not related to nor do I associate with weak little pussies.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
I'm not related to nor do I associate with weak little pussies.
Are you a weak pussy if your 100lb wife plants two butcher knives in your back as you are walking away, sets fire to you while in bed, throws liquid plumber into your eyes, fractures your skull with a baseball bat. My wife has seen all of the above and a lot more come into the hospital, and the thing they all had in common is the guy never wants to press charges.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:23 pm to EA6B
Thank you EA6B, you understand what is really happening in our society. It doesn't surprise me at all almost none of the men press charges. They'll never be allowed to live it down if they do. Our society essentially tells them that they can't.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:25 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
I'm not related to nor do I associate with weak little pussies.
Great respect for women there. So a male is weak if he's the type of man who's in a more traditional woman role (say cooking or teaching) and he gets beat up by his girlfriend who is a personal trainer and does cross fit. A man is weak if he wakes up and he is restrained in some manner and his girlfriend/wife starts beating up on him? A man is weak if a woman hits him with a crowbar in the back when he isn't looking? A man is weak if he can't handle his girlfriend/wife who just happens to be a marine?
Are you saying that no matter how strong a woman is that they are automatically inferior to men? To me it seems like you have no real respect for women if you believe that they are so weak.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:28 pm to GeauxBlacknGold83
quote:
So a male is weak if he's the type of man who's in a more traditional woman role (say cooking or teaching)
YES!!!!!!
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:30 pm to Vols&Shaft83
So essentially you don't believe in free will? You believe that men and women should be forced into largely artificially constructed gender roles? I guess men can't be artists then? I guess women can't be scientists or doctors?
Do you really think it's wrong if a girl likes cars and that it's wrong if a boy likes flowers?
While we're at it lets just take away women's right to vote.
Stop living in the 19th century and try to join us here in the 21st century where we should all be treated as individuals and not constrained by stupid gender rules.
Do you really think it's wrong if a girl likes cars and that it's wrong if a boy likes flowers?
While we're at it lets just take away women's right to vote.
Stop living in the 19th century and try to join us here in the 21st century where we should all be treated as individuals and not constrained by stupid gender rules.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:33 pm
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