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First time home buyer questions
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:18 pm
I'm a recent college graduate, saving and trying to plan for buying a house. I have almost no idea on this process, and many questions. Some of these questions may seem dumb to you, but like I have admitted, I have almost no knowledge.
1) First off, when it comes to what I can afford. I found a mortgage calculator and entered my information. 47k salary, 0 debt, with a down payment of 15k. The calculator told me I could afford a 163,880, 30 year fixed mortgage at that rate. Not sure what the interest rate I would be paying on that, but essentially I would be spending $1100/month on mortgage+home insurance+property taxes. That's my ceiling, I would assume, on affordability. My question for those with experience is, would it even be wise to come close to that ceiling?
2) I realize 15k down won't be 20% of the down payment for my desired home. The additional fee I have to pay for that,apparently, would be around $75/month. That's obviously doable, but will add up over time. Better to wait till I can save for 20% down or just say frick it?
3) credit score. I have no idea what my credit score is. I'm worried it won't be good. I have never used a debit card or ever had any debt in my name to pay off. Things I can do about this, and how will this effect me in qualifying for a mortgage?
Any help and advice would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, and possibly silly questions.
1) First off, when it comes to what I can afford. I found a mortgage calculator and entered my information. 47k salary, 0 debt, with a down payment of 15k. The calculator told me I could afford a 163,880, 30 year fixed mortgage at that rate. Not sure what the interest rate I would be paying on that, but essentially I would be spending $1100/month on mortgage+home insurance+property taxes. That's my ceiling, I would assume, on affordability. My question for those with experience is, would it even be wise to come close to that ceiling?
2) I realize 15k down won't be 20% of the down payment for my desired home. The additional fee I have to pay for that,apparently, would be around $75/month. That's obviously doable, but will add up over time. Better to wait till I can save for 20% down or just say frick it?
3) credit score. I have no idea what my credit score is. I'm worried it won't be good. I have never used a debit card or ever had any debt in my name to pay off. Things I can do about this, and how will this effect me in qualifying for a mortgage?
Any help and advice would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, and possibly silly questions.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:39 pm to Tigerfan56
Go set up a meeting with a lender. They can run a check on your credit and will let you know. Just give them an idea of how much you are needing
Example: 150k house, 4.0 rate, 30 yr, 3.5% down, fha loan...it comes out at a little more than 1k monthly
This would have been cheaper if I put more down but A) didnt have 20% to get no pmi and B) only plan on being in this house 5-7 years
This was first house. Been in it about a year
Example: 150k house, 4.0 rate, 30 yr, 3.5% down, fha loan...it comes out at a little more than 1k monthly
This would have been cheaper if I put more down but A) didnt have 20% to get no pmi and B) only plan on being in this house 5-7 years
This was first house. Been in it about a year
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:48 am to Tigerfan56
you need to talk to a loan officer and let him look at your credit and tell you your options. if you dont have the 20% down and have a strong enough credit score you can put 10% down and get a 10% second mortgage and avoid the PMI on the loan. your first home is a learning process get a good loan officer that is going walk your thru the process.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:01 am to Tigerfan56
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1) First off, when it comes to what I can afford. I found a mortgage calculator and entered my information. 47k salary, 0 debt, with a down payment of 15k. The calculator told me I could afford a 163,880, 30 year fixed mortgage at that rate. Not sure what the interest rate I would be paying on that, but essentially I would be spending $1100/month on mortgage+home insurance+property taxes. That's my ceiling, I would assume, on affordability. My question for those with experience is, would it even be wise to come close to that ceiling?
That's not your ceiling. What's your budget? Your budget defines your ceiling. Not some mortgage calculator.
Also, you'd be surprised how much you can be approved for. Scary honestly and don't allow a $250k approval make you think you should buy a house that expensive at this time.
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2) I realize 15k down won't be 20% of the down payment for my desired home. The additional fee I have to pay for that,apparently, would be around $75/month. That's obviously doable, but will add up over time. Better to wait till I can save for 20% down or just say frick it?
I'm thinking that number is low. PMI for me runs around $150/month, and my house was just a little more expensive than your $163k price.
With that said, yes, wait for the 20% down. New rules state that you will never get rid of PMI with a house purchase without the 20% down unless you refinance with 20% to put down on the new mortgage. Before, you could pay down your loan until it was 20% lower than the purchase price, refinance at the new number and lose the PMI. **I'll admit I could be wrong on this, but I remember when I refinanced that the broker told me that we would never lose the PMI unless we brought 20% to the table next time we refinanced.
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3) credit score. I have no idea what my credit score is. I'm worried it won't be good. I have never used a debit card or ever had any debt in my name to pay off. Things I can do about this, and how will this effect me in qualifying for a mortgage?
Debit card or credit card? Never had a car loan? Student loan?
If not, you're not buying a house. My tenants ran into this and it's why they're renting from me. They were both from wealthy families, went to college for free, had cars since they were 16, got good paying jobs and found out their credit scores were 0. Now they're paying off two cars on loan and using credit cards that they pay off at the end of each month.
**I feel like I should add that owning a home right away is not really part of the American dream anymore. Many young people are mobile, become dissatisfied in their job, and marry people who have their own hopes and dreams. My #1 piece of advice to those under the age of 30 would be to not buy a house. Find better long term investments, have an account to save for a house one day, and when you find a home that you know for sure you want to die in, buy it. Most likely your first house is not going to appreciate like it did for our parents when they bought their first homes.
I'd imagine that a $160k house isn't the one you envision for your family to have their memories in. If you saved $5k a year for ten years, you'd be 32 with $50k to put down on a home. If my maths are correct, $50k is 20% of 250k, and if you're married with a working wife, you could afford more than that. 32 ain't that far away, brother. Don't let time scare you.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:17 am to Tigerfan56
My suggestion is what some people don't think about. When you have a house you'd like to purchase, call an insurance company and get a homeowners and flood insurance quotes on that specific house. This will help you get an idea what your escrow will be. Ask the insurance company to run a flood determination to know what the flood zone. Another idea is talk to the owner and ask how much they pay for flood insurance.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:59 pm to StringedInstruments
you are confusing FHA PMI and conventional PMI. FHA loans the PMI never goes away and is very expensive. conventional PMI goes away at 78% and with good credit is cheap. i closed a customer with 10% down last month with 750 credit and his PMI on 168k was $56 a month.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:14 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Go set up a meeting with a lender. They can run a check on your credit and will let you know.
Wouldn't it be better if he pulled his own credit through MyFico? This would be considered a soft inquiry, not hard and won't impact his credit score, which may come into play.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:17 pm to hawkeye007
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you are confusing FHA PMI and conventional PMI. FHA loans the PMI never goes away and is very expensive. conventional PMI goes away at 78% and with good credit is cheap. i closed a customer with 10% down last month with 750 credit and his PMI on 168k was $56 a month.
Ah gotchya. Yeah, I have an FHA loan and the PMI sucks.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:15 am to StringedInstruments
I do agree with the pp who said it's too soon to buy...wait a couple years. Not only do you want your 20 percent down, you need a decent cash reserve: at least enough to cover the homeowners insurance hurricane deductible (2-3-5 percent of your houses insured value), as well as cover the inevitable maintenance and repair costs associated w ownership. Paying the mortgage is just the beginning.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:18 am to StringedInstruments
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Yeah, I have an FHA loan and the PMI sucks.
Yeah. I'll be doing 20 down next time
Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:48 am to Tigerfan56
You need to build up a credit history. You aren't going to get a mortgage with no credit history. There's nothing there to base you ability and willingness to repay the debt.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:47 pm to VABuckeye
As someone who is a little older than you (26) I'll offer some advice.
I thought like you right out of college. I'd heard that renting is throwing money away so I planned to buy right out of college. I ran into two issues.
1. Like you, I had zero credit. I read a lot of articles (and threads on here and other sites) and now I have a credit score just over 700. I stress to my friends at a similar age how important it is to use credit and play the credit game (smartly and responsibly) if you ever plan on buying a house. Most don't listen but that's because they're idiots. You should get a credit card right away and then a second 3-6 months later.
2. My fad FIRMLY stressed the same things people on here have about the transient nature of our generation and how likely we are to continually move. And thank god he did as I've now lived in over 10 states and 3 countries since I graduated. I couldn't have done any of that with a mortgage in the city I initially moved to after college.
Save, rent (if you can split with friends or sublet on Craigslist you can usually get ~500-600/month rents), and buy in 5 years. Even that is quick IMO.
I thought like you right out of college. I'd heard that renting is throwing money away so I planned to buy right out of college. I ran into two issues.
1. Like you, I had zero credit. I read a lot of articles (and threads on here and other sites) and now I have a credit score just over 700. I stress to my friends at a similar age how important it is to use credit and play the credit game (smartly and responsibly) if you ever plan on buying a house. Most don't listen but that's because they're idiots. You should get a credit card right away and then a second 3-6 months later.
2. My fad FIRMLY stressed the same things people on here have about the transient nature of our generation and how likely we are to continually move. And thank god he did as I've now lived in over 10 states and 3 countries since I graduated. I couldn't have done any of that with a mortgage in the city I initially moved to after college.
Save, rent (if you can split with friends or sublet on Craigslist you can usually get ~500-600/month rents), and buy in 5 years. Even that is quick IMO.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:41 pm to Tigerfan56
I agree with all the responses so far... i'd add that besides deciding if you want to build from the ground up (or one already built)... how stable is your job? If you are able to get a mortgage large enough to cover a house, a 20% down is a must. Why would you want to give the bank extra money (PMI) to prove to them you are worthy of your own money. Banks suck in general but ya have to go thru it..
also, wait until you have an EXTRA reserve of at least 20 grand if you dont already have the 'house supplies' including:
-fridge/ washer&dryer/ couch/ bed/ dishes/ lawnmower/ yard stuff in general/
-- what kind of cable u want (cox/ routers/ services)
-- alarm service
-- termite service
-- dont forget about your vehicle and how you will always need one of those/ tires/ oil / all that fun stuff.
-- find a location that is up and coming so that hopefully the future will appraise your future house well. hah.
- try to do a 15 yr loan if possible... why give the bank more free damn money.?
-- if your parents are wealthy enough, see if they can co-sign on a mortgage loan with you. It might help out your bottom line, since you dont have credit and havent paid anything off in life, passing thru the 'debt' stage of gaining credit.
-- id also watch House Hunters and Property Brothers on HGTV.. i watched for a year before buying and the knowledge they dish out is very accurate across any housing area in the US.
Good luck!
also, wait until you have an EXTRA reserve of at least 20 grand if you dont already have the 'house supplies' including:
-fridge/ washer&dryer/ couch/ bed/ dishes/ lawnmower/ yard stuff in general/
-- what kind of cable u want (cox/ routers/ services)
-- alarm service
-- termite service
-- dont forget about your vehicle and how you will always need one of those/ tires/ oil / all that fun stuff.
-- find a location that is up and coming so that hopefully the future will appraise your future house well. hah.
- try to do a 15 yr loan if possible... why give the bank more free damn money.?
-- if your parents are wealthy enough, see if they can co-sign on a mortgage loan with you. It might help out your bottom line, since you dont have credit and havent paid anything off in life, passing thru the 'debt' stage of gaining credit.
-- id also watch House Hunters and Property Brothers on HGTV.. i watched for a year before buying and the knowledge they dish out is very accurate across any housing area in the US.
Good luck!
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:34 am to FootballNostradamus
If you have the money don't do FHA. Go conventional.
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