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laying gravel without excavating
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:35 pm
I have a very muddy and rooty area in front of my house where I sometimes park and I would like to put some gravel in. I have tried digging some of it out but there are 3 trees that are along the length I want to put gravel and the roots are ridiculous. Can I just go ahead and put the gravel over the top of the mud and roots without worrying too much about excavating? I don't need it to be perfect or to last forever. Also, what sort of gravel would be best for this application?
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:37 pm to swampdawg
Without excavating or laying any sort of border to contain the gravel it's just going to spread all over with rain and use.
limestone gravel at a decent size would be best. nothing too fine
limestone gravel at a decent size would be best. nothing too fine
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:37 pm to swampdawg
Gravel driveways are trashy
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:40 pm to swampdawg
you're going to need some sort of machine to spread it,tractor with a grader box at least.crushed concrete or limestone > pea gravel.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:46 pm to swampdawg
quote:You can, but pretty soon, the gravel will start to reflect the softness of the mud, and those sprts will turn into holes.
Can I just go ahead and put the gravel over the top of the mud and roots without worrying too much about excavating?
quote:Go with a larger stone for softer dirt. It will help bridge the gap. I wouldn't use anything smaller than a 610 limestone.
Also, what sort of gravel would be best for this application?
I also recommend a geogrid if you're not going to remediate the existing dirt. It will lock the initial layer of stone into place and will help bridge over the soft spots.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:48 pm to swampdawg
you need to muck out the soft material
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:48 pm to swampdawg
If you don't want it to last, go right ahead
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:50 pm to swampdawg
You could try concrete tailings.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:51 pm to fr33manator
Doesn't matter if you parking cars on the roots the tree is going to die anyway just as soon cut it down and do it correctly.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:54 pm to swampdawg
Limestone or crushed asphalt will be your best bet.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:00 pm to swampdawg
Make sure you put a base down first, never put just gravel
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:07 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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I also recommend a geogrid if you're not going to remediate the existing dirt. It will lock the initial layer of stone into place and will help bridge over the soft spots.
Sounds like someone has been to a Tensar lunch-n-learn.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:10 pm to swampdawg
If you don't want to take it out cut in some soil cement. That shite will harden up nice.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:21 pm to Booyow
quote:Nope, but geogrid is good, and it's hell of a lot less expensive than cutting and importing.
Sounds like someone has been to a Tensar lunch-n-learn.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:37 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
Slag from the steel mill stays put. But don't put it on grass.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:47 pm to swampdawg
If you have access to crush run, use it. It has finer materials than just 57 stone. It is used for road sub grade. The fines will absorbe any wet soil, and will harden like concrete.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:51 pm to swampdawg
Parking in your yard is trashy.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:14 pm to Cosmo
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Gravel driveways are trashy
I used to think so too, but they're a ton of gravel driveways in the most affluent sections of Dallas. I notice them while driving through the Park Cities. Most of them aren't just pea gravel though but usually a dark grayish rock. I personally think it looks good.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:16 pm to DrunkenStuporMan
I think it is well established that what I am doing is trashy, but I am ok with that. I have lived there for 5 years now and parked on the roots with no consequence to the trees. I am just tired of the mud and need a relatively easy solution. It sounds like if I can get my hands on some of this crush & run, it might be a decent option.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:23 pm to bencoleman
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Make sure you put a base down first, never put just gravel
Is this another reference to the geotextile fabric? Is it ok to put that on a highly irregular surface?
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