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Louisiana and community planning

Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:00 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:00 am
For those like me who were born and raised in Louisiana, do you think our planning/zoning is holding us back as a state? When I travel to Texas, Georgia, Florida, etc. I see these massive planned communities and zoned areas with nice highways and infrastructure that just makes sense, and I'm always impressed. Many of us stay in Louisiana because we want to be close to family, good people, and great food, but is it time we start demanding better as a state in terms of planning/zoning/investment in infrastructure?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31719 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:05 am to
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For those like me who were born and raised in Louisiana, do you think our planning/zoning is holding us back as a state? When I travel to Texas, Georgia, Florida, etc. I see these massive planned communities and zoned areas with nice highways and infrastructure that just makes sense, and I'm always impressed. Many of us stay in Louisiana because we want to be close to family, good people, and great food, but is it time we start demanding better as a state in terms of planning/zoning/investment in infrastructure?


People in this area prefer small town approach..."Always been small, always want to be small"

In my times working in planning and architecture I noticed a good amount of people in this area are against planned communities. They say it offers little to no culture and character. I somewhat agree with that aspect, but planned communities done right are attractive environments to live in.

That said, there was more money and need to do those things in areas that had huge booms like Houston/Dallas/Austin. In Louisiana you are starting to see that in BR and Laffy. Nola strongly deters planned communities in lieu of gentrification.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1804 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:16 am to
We definitely need to start doing this. It can be very nice and doesn't necessarily mean it is without culture.
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:17 am to
Yes
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76307 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:22 am to
The "lack of culture" thing is such a braindead, meaningless, automated response to the mere mention of suburb/planned community
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57220 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:31 am to
Anything would be better than the slatter-dash surburban sprawl, "let's through up subdivisions everywhere" approach.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:46 am to
virtually all of the urban areas in La were begun before planned communities was a concept. Cities followed original land grant lines, which were mostly based on 8x40 arpent grants along waterways. Hard to reverse all that at this point.
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:50 am to
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Anything would be better than the slatter-dash surburban sprawl, "let's through up subdivisions everywhere" approach.


The cane-field neighborhood has just as little culture as any. It'll take young professional types to inhabit the planned communities.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50815 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:53 am to
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massive planned communities and zoned areas with nice highways and infrastructure 




That would be nice.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58128 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:56 am to
I dont even think we need more of the master planned communities, but the zoning and planning in general sucks arse for most of the state. If a developer has money and knows a politician or two, he can build whatever wherever it seems. The country boys laugh and the concepts of drainage or traffic studies.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31719 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:57 am to
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virtually all of the urban areas in La were begun before planned communities was a concept. Cities followed original land grant lines, which were mostly based on 8x40 arpent grants along waterways. Hard to reverse all that at this point.


Yes but that's just the land distribution. THe areas can be planned creatively. But you are correct that a good portion of those areas were built in post WW2 housing booms with little to no planning (Metairie, LA). Concepts get outdated and things need to be revised.

Br fricked itself with the interstate segregation. It will never be traffic integrated progressive city, or as much of one as it wants to be. It will be held back by its own restrictions and the people who vote and protest to keep it that way.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18615 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:58 am to
I'd rather Louisiana spend resources on revamping communities already in place like they will be doing in Mid-City and what's happening with the downtown developments. The last thing we need is more suburbs with cookie cutter houses and chain restaurants.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:06 am to
Land use, zoning, planning, and building restrictions in Louisiana cities are terrible.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31719 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:10 am to
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building restrictions in Louisiana cities are terrible.


BR - No building can be taller than the state capitol
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:12 am to
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Community planning


Does not exist in this state beyond the individual neighborhood level. It's one of the most frustrating aspects of this place. Go one state west and you have endless templates to learn from and replicate. La. Just refuses to do it
Posted by AbsolutTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
4796 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:34 am to
I think Lafayette has caught on and BR is slowly following in this direction.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31719 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:37 am to
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BR is slowly following in this direction


there is much resistance here
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27096 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:42 am to
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the zoning and planning in general sucks arse for most of the state. If a developer has money and knows a politician or two, he can build whatever wherever it seems. The country boys laugh and the concepts of drainage or traffic studies.


I've done my fair share of comprehensive plans and written a good bit of code, and this is spot on for most municipalities in the state. It doesn't really matter what we as consultants put in the code, people always seem to bypass it with ease through the good ol' boy network. Even in the major cities it is very easy to get around.

Say for example the stormwater code in BR. It's laughable how enforced that is, meaning it is not enforced at all. I see new developments that go up all the time that blatantly don't comply to volume and quality regulations. Seems the only thing they enforce are parking numbers, which should be the one thing in the code that is loose.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Just refuses to do it


There is no need for it.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 12:22 pm to
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There is no need for it.



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