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IRS Sniffs Around Food Perks For Silicon Valley Tech Workers

Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1659 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:02 pm
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Everybody likes a free lunch, unless you’re the Internal Revenue Service. And what the IRS really doesn’t like is the cafeteria at the Googleplex, Twitterverse or any iteration in the tech world.

San Francisco tax attorney Steve Moskowitz says the IRS has been sniffing around the food perks for years.

“That has been around forever,” Moskowitz said. “The first time I was asked that question was in the early 70s.”

While the IRS is looking at it as a “taxable fringe benefit” — meaning the government needs to be paid for 30 percent of the fair market value — Moskowitz says it’s all in how tech companies package it.

“If the employer says “As part of your compensation, I’m going to give you a free meal,’ then you can get taxed and that’s been tried,” Moskowitz said. “However, if the employer under the Internal Revenue Code 119 says ‘I’m giving you this for my convenience and my benefit,’ then it’s not taxable — plain and simple.”

While lunch and snacks may be out of reach, other tech perks like gyms, yoga and child care might be fair game.

“Then we’re talking about the fair market value of what you’ve been given,” Moskowitz said. “Again, the big dividing line is — is this compensation, then it’s taxable, or is it for the convenience of the employer.”

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They say there's no such thing as a free lunch...

Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:04 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?



I think most workers are already taxed too much.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:05 pm to
Good god the IRS sucks.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:06 pm to
That is fricking ridiculous.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80150 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:07 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?


frick no
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105407 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:07 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?


If they are patriotic they would want to pay their fair share.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:09 pm to
Government will find a way to get what it wants from you.

The IRS is an evil entity.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:11 pm to
I find it interesting a government agency works so hard at bending laws to defraud citizens of their money.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1695 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:16 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?


I say no. Employers like Google are reacting to studies that suggest that healthier, happier employees are more productive employees.

John Doe employee is less likely to take more leave if they aren't always going out for lengthy lunch (lunch hour traffic, restaurant seating delays etc) or trying to leave early to get to the gym or pick up junior. That usually means more productivity for the employer.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28805 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks they get?
Seeing how most of them are probably big liberals I thinking it would be hilarious if the had to pay taxes on their"free" meals.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:33 pm to
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John Doe employee is less likely to take more leave if they aren't always going out for lengthy lunch (lunch hour traffic, restaurant seating delays etc) or trying to leave early to get to the gym or pick up junior. That usually means more productivity for the employer.


Yeah. It sounds like it can be spun in a way that if it benefits the company it isn't taxable.

Food can be spun how you did.

Gyms can be positioned as helping the company healthcare costs by promoting healthy life styles.

Not sure how they could with childcare. Maybe the productivity angle again since they'd be on site.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:40 pm to
I work in tech, and I would say no to the food but the shite like free massages and daycare, then yes they should be taxed
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:44 pm to
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I work in tech, and I would say no to the food but the shite like free massages and daycare, then yes they should be taxed
Why one and not the others?

Is food the only thing that shouldn't be taxed?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:49 pm to
Good ol' IRS. Too much is never enough for these fricks. They'll be coming after your per diems next. Get ready for the government to track your iPhone's GPS to see how far you traveled from the office on Wednesday.

God forbid Google thinks they get more bang for their buck by paying for their employees' lunches rather than having them take an hour lunch break.

fricking government morons.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17078 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:52 pm to
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Should tech workers at Google or Twitter have to cough up tax money on the free food or other perks

Of course not. It's absurd that this is even being questioned.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71050 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:56 pm to
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God forbid Google thinks they get more bang for their buck by paying for their employees' lunches rather than having them take an hour lunch break.

fricking government morons.


Exactly. You can eat in the cafeteria for free or go out for lunch. The only reason for them to feed you is to keep you on site for the full day.

Trouble is you have rules being made by people who never had a real job and have no clue about the real world.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10961 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:58 pm to
The food at google is insane. My buddy has an ice cream parlor, and I volunteered to help him scoop ice cream for an event at Google over here in Mountain View. I was stunned at not only the variety, but the quality of the food.

The Google employees were so far in their little world that it was awkward communicating with some of them.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:00 pm to
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meaning the government needs to be paid for 30 percent of the fair market value



I really despise the IRS and I'm really tired of all the damn taxes I pay.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1923 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:14 pm to
How about finding Lois Lerner's e-mail's first.
F-you!
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71393 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:18 pm to
I mean you are receiving a benefit and it could be material.
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