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Marijuana and Driving - Politicos dig in
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:24 am
First off, I don't smoke but think MJ being illegal is stupid. That being said, check out how the politicos are using skewed results to argue their point. Infuriating.
Scary right? They had to reach back to 2012 for this example. Meanwhile, drunk drivers killed people across the US this holiday weekend.
Interesting finding.
This data comes from those stops where they offer to pay you for your blood. Discussed on this board before, I knew this project would start popping up as skewed data.
A huge misrepresentation of the data by Columbia. Look up who funded that "study" and consider.
Lots of other interesting data and comments in the article. Basically, they don't know anything either way but that doesn't stop those with an interest one way or the other from using skewed data to make their points.
LINK to entire article
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WASHINGTON (AP) — New York teenager Joseph Beer smoked marijuana, climbed into a Subaru Impreza with four friends and drove more than 100 mph before losing control. The car crashed into trees with such force that the vehicle split in half, killing his friends.
Scary right? They had to reach back to 2012 for this example. Meanwhile, drunk drivers killed people across the US this holiday weekend.
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Studies of marijuana’s effects show that the drug can slow decision-making, decrease peripheral vision and impede multitasking, all of which are important driving skills. But unlike with alcohol, drivers high on pot tend to be aware that they are impaired and try to compensate by driving slowly, avoiding risky actions such as passing other cars, and allowing extra room between vehicles.
Interesting finding.
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A roadside survey by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in 2007 found 8.6 percent of drivers tested positive for THC, but it’s not possible to say how many were high at the time because drivers only were tested for the presence of drugs, not the amount.
This data comes from those stops where they offer to pay you for your blood. Discussed on this board before, I knew this project would start popping up as skewed data.
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Columbia University researchers compared drivers who tested positive for marijuana in the roadside survey with state drug and alcohol tests of drivers killed in crashes. They found that marijuana alone increased the likelihood of being involved in a fatal crash by 80 percent. But because the study included states where not all drivers are tested for alcohol and drugs, most drivers in fatal crashes were excluded, possibly skewing the results. Also, the use of urine tests rather than blood tests in some cases may overestimate marijuana use and impairment. A Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation study used the roadside survey and data from nine states that test more than 80 percent of drivers killed in crashes. When adjusted for alcohol and driver demographics, the study found that otherwise sober drivers who tested positive for marijuana were slightly less likely to have been involved in a crash than drivers who tested negative for all drugs.
A huge misrepresentation of the data by Columbia. Look up who funded that "study" and consider.
Lots of other interesting data and comments in the article. Basically, they don't know anything either way but that doesn't stop those with an interest one way or the other from using skewed data to make their points.
LINK to entire article
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:26 am to jbgleason
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A Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation study used the roadside survey and data from nine states that test more than 80 percent of drivers killed in crashes. When adjusted for alcohol and driver demographics, the study found that otherwise sober drivers who tested positive for marijuana were slightly less likely to have been involved in a crash than drivers who tested negative for all drugs.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:27 am to jbgleason
you have to remember that in modern america, the first role of academia, especially in social "sciences", is to create crises
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
The first ruke of social sciences: we will say it if you pay it
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:31 am to jbgleason
It will be devastating. The roads will be a nightmare.
Stoners will be driving 10mph under the speed limit everywhere. Imagine the traffic.
Stoners will be driving 10mph under the speed limit everywhere. Imagine the traffic.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:33 am to jbgleason
Yep. Listen, if alcohol is legal, there is absolutely no reason for MJ to be illegal.
At all. Two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case the alcohol industry is fighting like hell to keep it illegal.
At all. Two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case the alcohol industry is fighting like hell to keep it illegal.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:33 am to jbgleason
i smoke and drive daily
functioning pot head here
functioning pot head here
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:34 am to jbgleason
I don't see why everybody wants to make weed legal when it's so bad for you
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:36 am to gatorrocks
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Yep. Listen, if alcohol is legal, there is absolutely no reason for MJ to be illegal.
At all. Two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case the alcohol industry is fighting like hell to keep it illegal.
I'd like to see a push to either legalize marijuana or make alcohol illegal again. The hypocrisy of the law in this case is too much.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:37 am to dagrippa
What about the children?????
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:53 am to jbgleason
I'm 100% for legalization of pot. Tax it, regulate it for quality, and make it to where any adult with the money to afford whatever price the free market dictates can wLk into a store and buy it just like they do a six pack of beer or a pack of cigarettes.
But having said that, it's never a good idea to get out in the roads when inebriated, no matter what means were used to get into that state.
But having said that, it's never a good idea to get out in the roads when inebriated, no matter what means were used to get into that state.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 9:09 am to Darth_Vader
I'm pro legalization. Though I don't think people should smoke and drive. I get that many stoners can, but some can't. Those some are the ones that will ruin it. So the only way to really level the playing field and to allow pot legalization while keeping people from driving would be to have a spot test.
Once there is an acceptable and standardized spot test, I think that it will be more likely for LEO to not block legalization.
Once there is an acceptable and standardized spot test, I think that it will be more likely for LEO to not block legalization.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 9:10 am
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