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Apple AirPort Extreme Question

Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:39 pm
Is it worth the money? Just got a new 27" iMac, have a MacBook Pro, iPad & 3 iPhones in the house. The salesman @ bestbuy insisted that I need the AirPort Extreme. I passed on it tonight until I could ask the tech board about it. Thanks for your thoughts and/or opinions in advance, I'm just an old redneck that's not hip on all the new computer jazz. Oh btw right now I have a Motorola router providing the wifi for all the devices.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:54 pm to
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The salesman @ bestbuy insisted that I need the AirPort Extreme.


He's a salesman just doing his job. There's nothing particularly standout about the extreme to justify its price other than how compact it is while including an internal HDD. If your router works fine, keep using it. When it stops working like you want, come back here, and we can discuss routers, but as far as getting the best performance for the least money, it will probably never be your answer.
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:09 pm to
So the new iMac is running slow like dial up slow, any suggestions as to why?
My iPad is running fine & phones are doing alright as well, the 2 computers are running like shite though
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:31 pm to
Proximity to the router is a big factor. Things like walls in between your router and device is another. Wired is always better than wireless. The amount of devices on the network doing things at the same time is also a player.

Any chance you could run Ethernet from the router to the iMac and report back with how well that works?
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11227 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:45 am to
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He's a salesman just doing his job. There's nothing particularly standout about the extreme to justify its price other than how compact it is while including an internal HDD. If your router works fine, keep using it. When it stops working like you want, come back here, and we can discuss routers, but as far as getting the best performance for the least money, it will probably never be your answer.



Well the airPort and the iMac both have wireless N. But I don't know if that alone justifies buying a new one considering his other devices don't.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 8:50 am to
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Well the airPort and the iMac both have wireless N. But I don't know if that alone justifies buying a new one considering his other devices don't.


You mean 802.11ac?

As far as getting the AirPort Extreme, I have the last gen and an AirPort Express as a wireless bridge. It works very well. The reason I went with the AirPort Extreme is because I have mostly all Apple devices as well and my old router would not handle >10 devices connected at a time. There are better options out there though that are either cheaper and just as good or better, or more expensive and considerably better. That said, the AirPort Extreme is not a bad router by any stretch of the imagination. Managing it (on the rare occasion) is really simple too with the AirPort Utility iOS app.
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:06 am to
So the computers are both running like champs this morning. My guess is that they were communicating with each other passing info, documents, music, pics & that sort of stuff which could possibly been slowing them both down. My router is around 5 years old but is handling the job for now. I guess I'll start looking at maybe getting something newer in the future but for now I'm good. Thanks for all of your technical support
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:14 am to
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I guess I'll start looking at maybe getting something newer in the future but for now I'm good.


ILikeLSUToo has said that he's trying to put together a "what to look for in a router" guide. Check back for it over the coming months. More than likely, you had a network traffic issue- lots of things talking to each other and lots of things on the internet at the same time. Since you're happy for now, I won't go into what to look for. If you decide to upgrade before you see his guide out, either bump this thread or start another, and the good people of the tech board will guide you in the right direction for what you need.


Also, I hope I didn't make it sound like the AirPort Extreme was a bad router. That was not my intent by any stretch.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:19 am to
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Managing it (on the rare occasion) is really simple too with the AirPort Utility iOS app.



I'm crashing at a buddy's right now and he's using an older (802.11n, no time capsule) airport. He's been having issues with internet connectivity, and he's not particularly tech savvy. I figured I would go inside the router console and play around a bit to see what features it offered and see if I could localize his connectivity issues. I was very upset to find that there is no web interface for these devices. On the one hand, that's pretty damn good security. On the other, it's a little inconvenient that you cannot use any device with a web browser to check your settings and tweak stuff. Personally, I don't like the trade off. But it's very good for home users that won't put secure, non-default passwords on their routers.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11227 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:24 am to
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You mean 802.11ac?

Yup. Sorry. That's exactly what I meant. I have Okra on the brain this morning.
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I'm crashing at a buddy's right now and he's using an older (802.11n, no time capsule) airport. He's been having issues with internet connectivity, and he's not particularly tech savvy. I figured I would go inside the router console and play around a bit to see what features it offered and see if I could localize his connectivity issues. I was very upset to find that there is no web interface for these devices. On the one hand, that's pretty damn good security. On the other, it's a little inconvenient that you cannot use any device with a web browser to check your settings and tweak stuff. Personally, I don't like the trade off. But it's very good for home users that won't put secure, non-default passwords on their routers.

All you have to do is download the config tool, though: LINK not sure that's any real security measure over a web interface.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7172 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:09 pm to
Semi thread hijack. In a house with apple devices, would a airport time capsule be worth it over something like the seagate central that is hooked to a regular router?

I have a baby that the wife loves taking pictures of and the hard drive on my laptop is nearing capacity.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:09 pm to
time capsule is just a back up. it is not a NAS
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