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Somebody argue with this Pat Buchanan article, please.

Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:09 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:09 am
I can't find anything that's wrong, other than saying "lifelong, Sharpton-like obsession with race" is over the top.

Holder has shown impermissible bias by relating his experiences to MIchael Brown.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57205 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:15 am to
You really can't. What Pat Buchanan said was entirely truthful. I truly fear Officer Wilson is fixing to be railroaded into prison, or at least have his life ruined.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 8:17 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:23 am to
He passes off hearsay as evidence, then whines about the villification of Wilson. Please.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:28 am to
No he doesn't . He merely says two stories have emerged.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32646 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:34 am to
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He passes off hearsay as evidence


Conflicting stories=/=evidence

quote:

The Spleen


fail
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50407 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:54 am to
I skimmed through a few of his articles and can't find anything wrong with them.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34895 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:06 am to
If yall missed the Brian Lamb/CSpan/Q&A interview with Buchanan last Sunday night...you missed a treat.

Pat Buchanan is one of the most honest and light-hearted politicos out there; and that virtue is one his greatest political burdens. Telling the whole truth, up on that Hill, assures personal character destruction (racist, bigot, heartless, etc.) and a MSM 'scarlet letter' for life.

And the "Sharpton-like obsession with race" quote could be applied to the Reverend Wright/"my spiritual mentor" Obama just a aptly. But a lot of people just can't face the truth, even when the top LE officials in the land butt into and utterly poison the due process of Law with stuff like "if I had a son..." comments. And that is why this Nation is going to hell, and will pay a dear price for worshiping PC, and censoring honest critique.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.



Live and learn. Humanity moving up!
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:25 am to
I think Pat is off-base, and I think it's telling that he conveniently failed to mention the Jack-In-The-Box case that turned so many people against McCulloch. He also failed to mention Holder's record as the U.S. Attorney for D.C. from 1993 to 1997, when Holder was repeatedly accused of being too lenient on police misconduct and police shootings of civilians doubled. Buchanan is also forgetting that Holder ignored the "lynch mob" when they wanted him to prosecute George Zimmerman. Does he think Al Sharpton would have ignored them if he had been the Attorney General? Both Holder and McCulloch have had life experiences that have had an impact of them, but I would say that McCulloch experiences are more profound and indelible than Holder's, lest we also include all the horror stories that Holder has no doubt heard from his in-laws. However, this doesn't mean that either one of them should be pulled off the case. I think the Black politicians asking for McCulloch's removal are misguided and I think Pat is misguided. Besides, elections have consequences, and the folks clamouring for their removal should wait till the next election to vent their frustration rather than be poor sports aboout it.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 9:30 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61256 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:50 am to
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He also failed to mention Holder's record as the U.S. Attorney for D.C. from 1993 to 1997, when Holder was repeatedly accused of being too lenient on police misconduct
Link?

Accused by whom? Accused over what cases specifically?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:53 am to
I appreciate the thoughtful response.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:56 am to
A 1998 Pulitzer Prize-winning investigation by the Washington Post -- highlighted in a Wednesday USA Today op-ed -- found that police files and court records from a period coinciding with Holder's tenure as Washington's U.S. attorney revealed "a pattern of reckless and indiscriminate gunplay by officers sent into the streets with inadequate training and little oversight."

"Washington's officers fire their weapons at more than double the rate of police in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago or Miami," the Post reported. In the five-year period before the investigation was published, D.C. police had fired at 54 moving cars, shot nine unarmed men on foot, and in 11 cases ruled shootings justified "despite eyewitness accounts or forensic evidence that contradicted officers."

Holder told the Post he hadn't seen a pattern of excessive force. For all the malfeasance the Post found, Holder's tenure as top prosecutor from 1993 to 1997 saw charges against only two officers -- for lying about their roles in a fatal shooting.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:05 am to
Wasn't DC one of the most dangerous cities in the in the country in the 90s? I lived in Maryland for a while in the 90s and remember Southeast DC was about like Chicago today. Even A tourist on the interstate was shot.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:08 am to
Buchanan is a straight shooter and would have made a good President if not for his moniker as a right-wing religious radical perpetuated of course by the liberal progressive media.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34895 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:09 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

and I think it's telling that he conveniently failed to mention the Jack-In-The-Box case that turned so many people against McCulloch.


Let's be specific here. In 2000, a STL drug task force was making its 3rd or 4th buy from two low level crack and heroin dealers. When the police officers approached the car of the dealers, they (the drug dealers) backed up and crashed into another police cruiser which had blocked them in. The police officers in front fired into the car and killed the two petty drug dealers.

McCulloch's biggest offense on that case was calling the two petty drug dealers "scum." That's what pissed off the professional race baiters. And yes, Sharpton showed up then, too, and did his Sharpton thing.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Link?

Accused by whom? Accused over what cases specifically?

LINK /

LINK
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61256 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:34 am to
Thanks for the links.

I don't believe Buchanan was saying that Holder isn't tough on rogue cops. Buchanan's point about Holder is that Holder is race obsessed. I don't see anything in either article about the race of the officers involved in shootings in DC. Do you know the races of the cops in the two stories you linked?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Do you know the races of the cops in the two stories you linked?

No, I sure don't, but we do know that George Zimmerman is White, and Holder stiff-armed the foiks demanding his scalp.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:54 am to
White prosecutors have empathized with their race for 250 years.

Having a black man possibly do the same thing melts this board's mind.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

White prosecutors have empathized with their race for 250 years.

Having a black man possibly do the same thing melts this board's mind.


But they're not racist. Just watch them tell you so.
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