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Hawaii AD says Football "may go away"
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:50 pm to cardswinagain
Olé miss is right behind
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:51 pm to cardswinagain
Not that surprising. Football is an expensive sport to maintain and Hawaii has exorbitant travel costs.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:53 pm to cardswinagain
It isn't fair that they have football.
It's fantasy land. How do you teach football in fantasy land?
It's fantasy land. How do you teach football in fantasy land?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:54 pm to cardswinagain
Once D-1 goes to the Super Conferences, a lot of the left over programs will either go away or drop down in classification.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:58 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
We had season tickets, because why not. Paid 250ish for 50 yard line 15th row.
shite was still empty and I imagine they gave away a decent amount of tickets.
shite was still empty and I imagine they gave away a decent amount of tickets.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:58 pm to cardswinagain
I read this depressing article on the state of Hawaii football last year.
LINK
the full article is worth the read
according to the article they do have a very small glimmer of hope that the Pac 12 might consider them as a way to break into Asian markets.
quote:
Jay knew all this when he moved into his new office on UH Manoa’s lower campus last January. What he didn’t know is how hard it was going to be to get the burned-out light bulbs changed.
Altogether, Jay counted 72 burned-out bulbs—he is a numbers guy—along the walkways outside the athletics department when he arrived. Three months later, as he caught a red-eye flight to California for a football meeting, the bulbs were still out. This wasn’t the only facilities issue Jay faced. There were the broken toilets in the Stan Sheriff Center, the bent rims in the basketball team’s gym, the decrepit locker room that was too embarrassing for football coaches to show recruits, the weeds—the list went on and on.
Jay stewed about this all the way across the Pacific. The football team had been thoroughly manhandled in 2012, ending the season 3-9. Fans weren’t buying tickets, donors weren’t writing checks and morale couldn’t get much worse. The entire campus was still reeling from the Wonder Blunder, in which the university poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into damage control after the athletics department, in a hapless attempt to bring the musician Stevie Wonder to campus for a benefit concert, lost $200,000 to a pair of Florida scam artists. Meanwhile, with a widening gulf between the “have” and “have-nots” in collegiate sports, and with Bachman Hall floating the idea of downgrading UH from a Division 1A program, the continued existence of the athletics department as we know it had come into question.
Jay had been brought in to turn things around. And yet he couldn’t even get the light bulbs to work. As soon as his plane landed in Los Angeles, he did what exasperated people do these days: he vented on Twitter.
“Going to Home Depot & buying several cases of replacement bulbs myself. Will find a ladder & do this myself. Can’t sit idly. Embarrasing,” he tweeted, using his handle, HawaiiManoaAD.
Then he tweeted: “My staff knows when I see something broken & it obviously hasn’t been fixed in a long time, I’m impatient. THIS IS OUR HOUSE!!”
And this: “We are cleaning up our athletic offices. Getting rid of moldy carpets. making it presentable for guests, recruits, parents.”
And this: “What do recruit parents think when they see junk lying around, wallpapers falling off, landscaping overgrown? ‘They don’t care.’”
LINK
the full article is worth the read
according to the article they do have a very small glimmer of hope that the Pac 12 might consider them as a way to break into Asian markets.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:24 pm to Dr RC
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according to the article they do have a very small glimmer of hope that the Pac 12 might consider them as a way to break into Asian markets.
Very interesting speculation. Frankly they need to either be lucky enough to step up to a better (major) division or end the football program as a major sport (given their expenses especially).
It is ironic because Pacific Islander football talent is arguably the best in the world (if you look at the number of football players in the NFL by ethnicity the #1 per capita group is Pacific Islander) but at some point financial reality has to hit some of these midmajors.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:50 pm to AlaTiger
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Once D-1 goes to the Super Conferences, a lot of the left over programs will either go away or drop down in classification.
Not a true statement - the debt that most athletic foundations at the Power 5 schools will not allow for a even home vs away schedule.
Most debt that the foundations have can cash flow with 7 home games. Foundations that have lower floater bond deals MUST have the extra home game.
There a handful of schools that could move to a 6 home 6 away schedule - from a financial standpoint. The rest would have to rework their debt structure. And bond holders and bankers are not willing to let go of their current spread on those multi million dollar deals - some over 100 million in debt.
The major emphasis will be less debt and more tv revenue - that said, if there is another downturn In the economy, all bets are off.
The MWC, AAC and CUSA will make it as part of a power structure - that gets enough home game guarantees for the big boys.
Any other line if thinking is foolish. What kills Hawaii was a limited MWC invite.
Hawaii and Idaho have the most to lose right now.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:10 pm to nelatf
I met several of their fans when they played versus Georgia in sugar bowl. Good times with them.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:31 pm to Paul Allen
As a former U of Hawaii Hilo (same system) athlete I hate to hear this. However it is very challenging financially to run the department I am sure.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:42 pm to cardswinagain
The facilities at Hawai'i are awful. They're losing all the states top talent these days too.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:45 pm to cardswinagain
timmy chang says frick that shite
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:53 pm to S
hawaii is geographically unique and shouldn't be used as any part of an argument for or against football or anything related to it ...
thing is, if the football program goes away, what does that do to the other programs, i.e., the title IX programs? ...
thing is, if the football program goes away, what does that do to the other programs, i.e., the title IX programs? ...
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:35 pm to tiderider
I mean, this was the height of the program.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:49 pm to dhuck20
I seem to recall that Louisville was discussing dropping their football program not so long ago.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:59 pm to cardswinagain
They had some solid teams under june jones
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