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Firing people: High stress project, you gotta go

Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:23 am
Posted by Bushmaster
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:23 am
I have to tell 4 senior engineers they are no longer needed on our project and at the same time I had to hire people to replace their positions.

I have nothing personal against these people but they are not cutting it.

Some of these folks have been with our company for 20 years and will have to either choose to go to Australia or on another project or not.

Any way to sugarcoat this?


This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 12:26 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
83929 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:24 am to
I'd go to Australia, but I'm not an engineer. :/
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14977 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:25 am to
In what ways are they not performing?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:25 am to
Pay me a nice salary and I will fire all the people you need me to.

I used to hate firing people but now days it doesn't phase me much. If someone is costing me money or not cutting it I send them packing.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13231 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:27 am to
Stick to facts
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:27 am to
Can't keep up with the pace of the project. Making big mistakes that cost a lot of money.
Posted by Bad Medicine
Member since Aug 2014
3575 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:29 am to
If they are costing you money with their mistakes they have to go. It sucks but it's not your fault.
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:29 am to
See, in a way Stout they are costing me money. On my functional cost code.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:30 am to
So you're giving them these options...
1) relocate to Australia
2) work on another project
3) find another job
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:32 am to
Yeah, give me number 1.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167218 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:32 am to
I fired a guy on Easter Sunday once.

Found out he lied to me about something pretty serious so I called him up and told him not to come to work anymore. He was upset I did it on Easter Sunday but I was pissed and didn't want to waste my time dealing with it the next day.

Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:33 am to
One mistake by one of them today cost about half a mil. We are on a huge hard money job down here that most people would love to be on just for the experience alone.

I think one part of it is I am a lot younger than most of these people that I am gonna have to release on Monday.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:34 am to
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Yeah, give me number 1.


That's easy for a 20 something bachelor to say, but he mentioned some have 20+ years with the company which puts them probably in their mid 40s.... They're probably pretty settled in.
Posted by puse01
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:35 am to
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This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89846 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:35 am to
Is any of that contract work?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:35 am to
quote:

That's easy for a 20 something bachelor to say, but he mentioned some have 20+ years with the company which puts them probably in their mid 40s.... They're probably pretty settled in


Is it selfish of me to say that as a married man with two kids? Dammit.
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:35 am to
get me a job
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:36 am to
quote:

Any way to sugarcoat this?



Yup! Let them know that its obvious to you that they are not happy with their jobs, or else they would be cutting it, and a new challenge is exactly what they need and it will make them happier. Let them know it might be tough at first but within a couple of months they will be much happier and their family will thank them for it. I would try to get them to quit first by saying that and if they don't you have to let them go.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:36 am to
quote:

I think one part of it is I am a lot younger than most of these people that I am gonna have to release on Monday.



For some reason I kinda figured this...
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:37 am to
I tried to get stout to hire me, but I guess he has enough guys who can sharpen pencils on payroll.
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