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Talent or Experience?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:41 am
You cant teach talent.
When all else is equal experience is important, but I'll take talent over experience any day. This is part of the reason that I don't think Moo State will be any good. Yes they have experience at key positions, but I'm not a believer in their overall talent. Same with Ole Miss. I believe our talent level is much higher than those two teams, the games are at home, therefore, W!
Most people who's job it is to predict college football (the media) put to much value on experience. They like to sell you known commodities. Basically, they say that if you return your QB and you have known players at key positions then you will be good. Not always the case. i.e. Auburn 10', A&M 12', FSU 13', ect. When I look at a team, I look at the last 4 recruiting classes and judge the actual talent on the team. In a nutshell, our talent will prevail!!!
Obviously ya'll know my opinion, What say you?
When all else is equal experience is important, but I'll take talent over experience any day. This is part of the reason that I don't think Moo State will be any good. Yes they have experience at key positions, but I'm not a believer in their overall talent. Same with Ole Miss. I believe our talent level is much higher than those two teams, the games are at home, therefore, W!
Most people who's job it is to predict college football (the media) put to much value on experience. They like to sell you known commodities. Basically, they say that if you return your QB and you have known players at key positions then you will be good. Not always the case. i.e. Auburn 10', A&M 12', FSU 13', ect. When I look at a team, I look at the last 4 recruiting classes and judge the actual talent on the team. In a nutshell, our talent will prevail!!!
Obviously ya'll know my opinion, What say you?
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:43 am to TigerBlood17
Depends on the position.
When it comes to defense in general, I will take experience over talent any day of the week.
When it comes to defense in general, I will take experience over talent any day of the week.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:44 am to UGATiger26
Exactly
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:45 am to TigerBlood17
So are we at the time of year for impassioned threads ranting about some random thought, statistic, or attitude that is going to make us an elite team?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:48 am to Tiger1242
If Les Miles would open practice to the media, I might have something better or more substantial to post...just sayin
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:52 am to TigerBlood17
I'll let him know
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:52 am to UGATiger26
quote:
Depends on the position.
When it comes to defense in general, I will take experience over talent any day of the week.
depends on how talented experienced players are. for instance, what if the defense had 11 dj welters? how would you like the chances compared to a defense with 7-8 freshman and sophomore studs?
experience is nice, but talent is much more important. you can't teach someone to be great at football if they don't have the innate ability to be great. you can teach an elite talent how to utilize that talent much easier.
one would think that after the amount of young impact players we've had recently that this wouldn't be much of a question. not to mention a freshman won the heisman trophy 2 years ago
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:55 am to TigerBlood17
I'm going to get grilled for this, but the reason why I'm not super confident in our ability to compete for an SEC championship this year is that Les Miles' teams don't really overachieve. The years where we've been great, we have started the season with high rankings and expectations. That's not to say we can't get 9 wins, maybe 10 (if balls bounce our way) with a bowl game.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:56 am to lsufball19
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depends on how talented experienced players are
Well it also depends on how talented the non-experienced players are too.
If you're talking about experienced 2 and 3-stars vs. 5-stars, than no doubt those players are much more talented.
But if we're talking about a 4-star CB with a season of experience vs. a 5-star with no experience, gimme the 4-star any day, at least until the 5-star develops and is ready.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:58 am to TigerBlood17
You need both to optimize success, but given a choice, talent>>>>>experience.
Kragthorpe, as a RS Junior with a coach for a father, has had plenty of practice experience. He will never start a game at QB for LSU (to be fair, he wasn't brought on the roster to start at LSU).
B. Harris is a true freshman. He may start game 1, but at the least will play a significant role this year.
Talent trumps experience.
Kragthorpe, as a RS Junior with a coach for a father, has had plenty of practice experience. He will never start a game at QB for LSU (to be fair, he wasn't brought on the roster to start at LSU).
B. Harris is a true freshman. He may start game 1, but at the least will play a significant role this year.
Talent trumps experience.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:59 am to UGATiger26
Ok so for the sake of argument...
Would rather a 5 star true freshmen start over a 2 or 3 star veteran with a season of starts under his belt??
Would rather a 5 star true freshmen start over a 2 or 3 star veteran with a season of starts under his belt??
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:00 am to TigerBlood17
talent...
A roster full of 2 and 3 stars vs a roster full of 4 and 5 starts????
A roster full of 2 and 3 stars vs a roster full of 4 and 5 starts????
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:01 am to lsufball19
I understand the debate between talent and experience. Reasonable people might disagree on which is more important. What I do not understand is how the same sportswriter will suggest that LSU will be a work in progress because they are young, but then look at Alabama, a team replacing almost the same number of players, and claim that they are favorites because they are talented. You can't have it both ways. This is just lazy biased sports writing.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:02 am to TigerBlood17
Talent without experience is the problem. Once these kids get experience (get the feel for the game, adjust to the speed, make the adjustment to realizing that what worked in hs won't always work in college, & realizing that the talent gap is not nearly as wide as it was for them in hs-they aren't the only "superstar" on the field), then their talent will shine through. Once they learn to respect the talent on the field, they then learn how to play at this level.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:08 am to TigerBlood17
Players are coming in more ready now than they were 10-15 years ago.
Some graduate early.
Allowing them to come in the summer helps as well because strength coaches can lock them down at that point.
Some graduate early.
Allowing them to come in the summer helps as well because strength coaches can lock them down at that point.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:15 am to TigerBlood17
JJ had tons of experience......
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:27 am to klrstix
quote:
Would rather a 5 star true freshmen start over a 2 or 3 star veteran with a season of starts under his belt??
In that case, I would take the 5-star.
That's what I said originally. I just worded it poorly.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:32 am to spike0311
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I do not understand is how the same sportswriter will suggest that LSU will be a work in progress because they are young, but then look at Alabama, a team replacing almost the same number of players, and claim that they are favorites because they are talented. You can't have it both ways. This is just lazy biased sports writing.
eh, well it's mainly because we're replacing all our best skill guys on offense. alabama is just replacing their quarterback. we received the same respect in 2007. we lost the #1 overall draft pick at quarterback, returned most everyone else on offense, and started the season top 3 and a national title favorite.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:05 pm to TigerBlood17
Do not get talent and rating confused. We have had a great number of 3 star recruits come in and show far greater talent from day 1 than some of the 5 stars. The players do not rate themselves, so don't blame an over rated player for under achieving if he gave his best effort.
Look at Texas last year, all 3 draft eligible classes were ranked top 5 and they had nobody drafted.
That being said without much talent, all the experience in the world is not going to help against a far more talented player.
Look at Texas last year, all 3 draft eligible classes were ranked top 5 and they had nobody drafted.
That being said without much talent, all the experience in the world is not going to help against a far more talented player.
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