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How long until we send troops back into Iraq?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:57 pm
I see the propaganda machine is in full force on the MSM. Looks like they are trying to garner support for more intervention. I bet we have troops on the ground within 3 weeks once the shock from ISIS treatment of citizens garners enough public support
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:59 pm to deltaland
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:00 pm to deltaland
We have about 900 troops there now.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:01 pm to papasmurf1269
We have
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:02 pm to themunch
frick that shite...though as others have said.
If we are bombing we already have troops on the ground.
Sad
If we are bombing we already have troops on the ground.
Sad
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:03 pm to deltaland
Who do you think is calling in all that air support for the Kurds?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:06 pm to deltaland
Don't you mean advisers?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:07 pm to Revelator
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:08 pm to deltaland
Can we say what we mean here? How long until we reintroduce major combat units--brigade-sized or greater? Who knows.
I hope never. But if we need spotters to successfully carry out strikes, so be it. We can't do nothing.
I hope never. But if we need spotters to successfully carry out strikes, so be it. We can't do nothing.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:09 pm to deltaland
Obama told us just last week he will not put troops on the ground again in Iraq.
My gut tells me it will be the day after the November mid-terms.
My gut tells me it will be the day after the November mid-terms.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:09 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I'm talking about ground troops and special forces. They're already seeing the narrative that the airstrikes are ineffective.
Only other option is to send troops in
Only other option is to send troops in
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:11 pm to deltaland
we left?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:15 pm to deltaland
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I'm talking about ground troops and special forces. They're already seeing the narrative that the airstrikes are ineffective.
Only other option is to send troops in
airstrikes don't really work against enimes who first of all have religious motivations for what they do, and they don't really have headquarters or strongholds. With Germany and Japan in WWII you know where their strongholds are and where they are, but with most of the enemies we fight today they blend in with their surroundings they don't really have borders and headquarters. It's hard to dismantle an enemy when you don't really know where it is.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:17 pm to deltaland
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:44 pm to asurob1
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If we are bombing we already have troops on the ground.
Agreed.
If you have tactical/close air support, then you have troops on the ground. Period. Someone is directing the airstrikes. They are not being done "in the blind."
And if you have troops on the ground, then you have a logistics support element either in theater or nearby.
And the numbers keep growing.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:52 pm to Navytiger74
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Can we say what we mean here? How long until we reintroduce major combat units--brigade-sized or greater? Who knows.
It is all about APOD/SPOD and forward positioning. Secure intertheater LOC and an ISB. If it is going to happen look for news of a combat brigade (with supporting CS/CSS elements/enablers) being deployed to Kuwait and placed there as a rapid reaction force. Also the movement of an Air Force wing (Jbird?) or a carrier strike group (Navytiger74?) being put in place to give fixed wing close air support.
That is the way we roll.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:55 pm to Wolfhound45
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It is all about APOD/SPOD and forward positioning. Secure intertheater LOC and an ISB. If it is going to happen look for news of a combat brigade (with supporting CS/CSS elements/enablers) being deployed to Kuwait and placed there as a rapid reaction force. Also the movement of an Air Force wing (Jbird?) or a carrier strike group (Navytiger74?) being put in place to give fixed wing close air support.
Bla Bla Bla Yada Yada Yada MEU
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:01 pm to Wolfhound45
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It is all about APOD/SPOD and forward positioning. Secure intertheater LOC and an ISB. If it is going to happen look for news of a combat brigade (with supporting CS/CSS elements/enablers) being deployed to Kuwait and placed there as a rapid reaction force. Also the movement of an Air Force wing (Jbird?) or a carrier strike group (Navytiger74?) being put in place to give fixed wing close air support. That is the way we roll.
Well you spelled that out better than I could. That's why you're a COL and I'm still a JO.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Bla Bla Bla Yada Yada Yada MEU
And then the Marine comes along, cuts through the Pentagonese, and let's us know the real.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:03 pm to Wolfhound45
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That is the way we roll.
And I have strong disagreements with the way we roll. We are far too heavy and logistically intensive and it's why we have so much trouble with insurgencies. We focus far too much on force protection and not enough on force projection. Smaller units, lighter weapons, living amongst the population.
Putting a brigade sized or larger force in Iraq to face ISIS would be counter productive. ISIS would simply disband their conventional combat units and fight a guerrilla war.
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