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The "racial impact" on the war on drugs.

Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:33 pm
I will agree thT the usage stats don't match the arrest/conviction stats, but here's a question (that is probably non PC):

How much of the racial impact is due to stupidity (smoking in public or dealing to strangers) vs not patrolling as much in white areas?

Serious discussion only.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:36 pm to
Rand Paul asserts that the "racial" disparity of arrests vs usage is simply caused by the fact that it is MUCH easier to patrol inner cities than cookie cutter suburbs. I agree with him.

White people overwhelmingly live in suburbs, and governments don't invest as much in police force in the burbs as they do in the cities.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:38 pm to
the amount of non-drug crime, namely violent crime, is a big difference. you will have more cops where you have more violence

this is typically in your areas of poor and/or minorities
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:39 pm to
I agree with tha fact, but how many "suburban folk" do you think deal on the street (like an idiot) vs "inner city folk"?

"Racist" terminology put in" "quotes". I picked up said terminology from MSNBC.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

The "racial impact" on the war on drugs


quote:

How much of the racial impact is due to stupidity


Did you REALLY just start a thread asking if black people get arrested more because they are stupid?
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:42 pm to
there's no need for that type of police presence in the suburbs. 364 days out of the year you could probably set up a weed stand in my neighborhood and get away with it
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:42 pm to
Blacks in cities on foot are more likely to be stopped and frisked.
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:45 pm to
Wouldn't that mean that most whites arrested in the south is for meth? So wouldn't it go both ways?
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:47 pm to
cwill, can you back that claim up?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

This was last fall. Across the water, in Manhattan, a federal judge had just ruled against the New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk program, condemning it as rife with unreasonable stops and searches and riddled with “indirect racial profiling.” Of those waylaid in New York between 2004 and June 2012, 83 percent were black or Hispanic. Newark’s current percentage is slightly lower.
LINK
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Did you REALLY just start a thread asking if black people get arrested more because they are stupid?


He's not saying all blacks are stupid. But let's be honest, most of your inner city thugs who deal with drugs aren't Rhodes Scholars. The racial impact is due to overall higher crime in inner cities leading to more cops in the area. Also it seems few white people deal drugs...if they do it's on a large scale and they don't touch it but rather have people work for them to distribute. Cops tend to target those who deal rather than use, so they look for dealers on the corners and such or find out information off the streets about who deals.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:26 am to
quote:

Also it seems few white people deal drugs...if they do it's on a large scale and they don't touch it but rather have people work for them to distribute. Cops tend to target those who deal rather than use, so they look for dealers on the corners and such or find out information off the streets about who deals.


You know how I know you've never done drugs?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:51 am to
quote:

How much of the racial impact is due to stupidity


A lot. Whites are a lot more discrete. They are careful who they let know about their usage and as a result there is less snitching. I've been close to narcotics divisions of law enforcement agencies and the info on black users, dealers, cooks, etc is constant. With whites it's usually the same few people over and over (the dumb ones)

Also, it only takes a few traffic stops in the right area before you find one with a rock, pipe, roach, etc. Seems most whites don't just ride around dirty like that.

Low hanging fruit
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 1:01 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:55 am to
quote:

Did you REALLY just start a thread asking if black people get arrested more because they are stupid?


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:23 am to
quote:


How much of the racial impact is due to stupidity (smoking in public or dealing to strangers) vs not patrolling as much in white areas?

which race are you presuming is the dumbest?
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 5:24 am
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:23 am to
quote:

He's not saying all blacks are stupid. But let's be honest, most of your inner city thugs who deal with drugs aren't Rhodes Scholars. The racial impact is due to overall higher crime in inner cities leading to more cops in the area. Also it seems few white people deal drugs...if they do it's on a large scale and they don't touch it but rather have people work for them to distribute. Cops tend to target those who deal rather than use, so they look for dealers on the corners and such or find out information off the streets about who deals.



This may be the most ignorant post of the month.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:32 am to
quote:

. Also it seems few white people deal drugs...
EVER HEARD OF METH AMPHETAMINE ?!?!?!??!?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29038 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:40 am to
quote:

deltaland



Don't bow out while they gang up on you.


Just sit back and absorb all the druggie wisdom.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:13 am to
quote:

navy


Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Also it seems few white people deal drugs...if they do it's on a large scale and they don't touch it but rather have people work for them to distribute


There is a Meth and heroine epidemic going on in this country, and the majority of those who are strung out are white people. I would be willing to bet a large number of those people buy from friends or fellow users, who themselves are overwhelmingly white.
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