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I think ISIS is evil, but I doubt they are beheading children
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:12 am to anc
Yeah, there was a thread the other day about this. It was on wnd, or the blaze or one of those types of crap sites. I haven't seen the report confirmed yet by any sort of legit media.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:21 am to a want
How sad is it that
A) it takes the beheading of children to get Americans to move on a matter
and
B) we've apparently become desensitized to plain old regular adult beheadings?
BTW, anyone here wonder what the significance of a beheading is?
A) it takes the beheading of children to get Americans to move on a matter
and
B) we've apparently become desensitized to plain old regular adult beheadings?
BTW, anyone here wonder what the significance of a beheading is?
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:23 am to anc
I'm a non-believer and I think this group has a greater potential than AQ and others to really target the youth.
Younger fighters out for blood are scarier than adults. More likely to kill without thought and to behead fellow kids.
We know ISIS is saying to cut the head of the Infidel and the Apostate. We know they are spreading a popular message to the disenfranchised.
Hamas gained so much power by doing good in the community and giving stuff to the poor. This group is doing the same. It's like Robin Hood to them. But if you are their enemy they want you dead and tortured.
I know people outwardly hate Muslims here, but I do know that their book, like your books says pretty bluntly "Thou shall not kill" . Maybe not the same way.
And like your book there are many further references to killing in the name of.. BUT the general point of both is to be good, love your God and respect your fellow man.
What is happening is people are taking the words and forming them to their own vision. Like we have seen long long ago.
Using the scriptures in this way has ALWAYS been a bad thing and is always looked upon as abhorrent in history. (Inquisition anyone?)
The problem is.
We have a potential for this to get out of hand quickly. Past spreading to one region. If more Muslims in more areas DO start deeming this to be the Caliphate, then we have a real problem on our hands.
Then a war would have to be waged on a religion.
My hope is that these animals are deemed evil by the Muslim clerics and quickly handled by their own people. Because with these people bloodshed just swells their ranks. They need to be stripped from within.
But this is the "next AQ" we were worried about.
Younger fighters out for blood are scarier than adults. More likely to kill without thought and to behead fellow kids.
We know ISIS is saying to cut the head of the Infidel and the Apostate. We know they are spreading a popular message to the disenfranchised.
Hamas gained so much power by doing good in the community and giving stuff to the poor. This group is doing the same. It's like Robin Hood to them. But if you are their enemy they want you dead and tortured.
I know people outwardly hate Muslims here, but I do know that their book, like your books says pretty bluntly "Thou shall not kill" . Maybe not the same way.
And like your book there are many further references to killing in the name of.. BUT the general point of both is to be good, love your God and respect your fellow man.
What is happening is people are taking the words and forming them to their own vision. Like we have seen long long ago.
Using the scriptures in this way has ALWAYS been a bad thing and is always looked upon as abhorrent in history. (Inquisition anyone?)
The problem is.
We have a potential for this to get out of hand quickly. Past spreading to one region. If more Muslims in more areas DO start deeming this to be the Caliphate, then we have a real problem on our hands.
Then a war would have to be waged on a religion.
My hope is that these animals are deemed evil by the Muslim clerics and quickly handled by their own people. Because with these people bloodshed just swells their ranks. They need to be stripped from within.
But this is the "next AQ" we were worried about.
quote:
ISIS had close links with al-Qaeda until 2014, but in February of that year, after an eight-month power struggle, al-Qaeda cut all ties with the group, reportedly for its brutality and "notorious intractability".
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:25 am to anc
quote:Radical Islamist flew planes in the side of buildings and they blow themselves up with bomb vests.
but I doubt they are beheading children
Why is beheading children a leap in what you can believe about them?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:26 am to anc
I don't know who beheaded her but I saw a pic of a little girl and someone had lopped her head off
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:26 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
BTW, anyone here wonder what the significance of a beheading is?
quote:
Yes, but it's important in other cultures, too. As Lee Smith noted in a 2004 Slate piece, two verses in the Quran refer to decapitation—both in the context of religious war. Sura 47, verse 4 reads: "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks." However, this line has generally been interpreted by Islamic scholars to mean that when facing infidels on the battlefield, one must strike with a deadly force. (The verse goes on to say that once you have fully subdued your enemy, survivors should be shown "generosity and ransom.") The same is true in sura 8, verse 12, in which it's recalled that the Lord said to the angels at the Battle of Badr, "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."* Both verses are traditionally understood as inspirations to ferocity and not literal calls for beheading.
Islamic history does have its share of prominent beheadings, however. Muhammad's earliest biographer, Ibn-Ishaq, describes how the prophet approved the beheadings of between 600 and 900 men from the Jewish Banu Qurayza tribe following the Battle of the Trench. * Decapitation of a dead enemy on the battlefield was the "primary form of symbolic aggression among Ottoman soldiers," according to this history of the Ottoman Empire. However, Christian Crusaders were known to do likewise—Fulcher of Chartres chronicles how, in 1099, 10,000 Jews and Arabs were beheaded in the Temple of Solomon during the capture of Jerusalem.
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:27 am to a want
quote:Wake me up when you find one.
any sort of legit media.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:30 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
A) it takes the beheading of children to get Americans to move on a matter and B) we've apparently become desensitized to plain old regular adult beheadings?
Too much Walking Dead. We're used to the gore.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:32 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:Hey, you've got to step up the propaganda. Sheople get bored easily. Let's face it, they're pretty tired of Al Qaeda and regular old beheadings.
How sad is it that
A) it takes the beheading of children to get Americans to move on a matter
and
B) we've apparently become desensitized to plain old regular adult beheadings?
ISIS is the new shiny toy to occupy our attentions with.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:34 am to a want
quote:
Yeah, there was a thread the other day about this. It was on wnd, or the blaze or one of those types of crap sites. I haven't seen the report confirmed yet by any sort of legit media.
Which is worse, beheading children or sticking a pair os scizzors in a childs head?
How many "crap sites" seem to think there is a difference.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:36 am to roygu
Usually the scissors is only used on " a mass of cells", not children 
Both are equally sick.
Both are equally sick.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:37 am to bencoleman
The article stated that picture was from Syria in 2013.
I have no doubt that these evil people would behead children, but forgive me for being a skeptic that its actually happening.
From the article:
We should avoid spreading unsubstantiated claims and inflaming dread and panic by playing on people’s natural disgust of harm to children. ISIS is an organization that has committed heinous acts of violence and violated the human rights of many of our fellow believers. But we must not partake in the spreading of lies, even if it is against our enemies.
I have no doubt that these evil people would behead children, but forgive me for being a skeptic that its actually happening.
From the article:
We should avoid spreading unsubstantiated claims and inflaming dread and panic by playing on people’s natural disgust of harm to children. ISIS is an organization that has committed heinous acts of violence and violated the human rights of many of our fellow believers. But we must not partake in the spreading of lies, even if it is against our enemies.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:42 am to DrunkenStuporMan
quote:People still believe an invisible "superhuman" lives somewhere in the sky.
Radical Islamist flew planes in the side of buildings
So it isn't difficult to understand that the majority still believe in this myth only 13 years later.
You'll pardon me, won't you, if I don't get too worked up over Mulsims? Further down the road I'll be asked to hate another group of people who sit on natural resources coveted by those who would profit from it.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:43 am to anc
Already children on that mountain died from dehydration. Whether its Israel bombing children or ISIS starving children.. Or beheading, its all the same heinous acts against humanity.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:43 am to anc
quote:
I have no doubt that these evil people would behead children, but forgive me for being a skeptic that its actually happening.
From the article:
We should avoid spreading unsubstantiated claims and inflaming dread and panic by playing on people’s natural disgust of harm to children. ISIS is an organization that has committed heinous acts of violence and violated the human rights of many of our fellow believers. But we must not partake in the spreading of lies, even if it is against our enemies.
I get what the author is saying, but in a big-picture sense, who gives a frick?
OK guys, the Nazi's gassed innocent Jews, performed grisly medical experiments on them, made them shoot their own family members, and buried them in mass graves, but WHOA WHOA WHOA let's set the record straight here. They DIDN'T beat any Jews to death with baseball bats. Let's not spread lies about them.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:45 am to TX Tiger
quote:
People still believe an invisible "superhuman" lives somewhere in the sky.
So it isn't difficult to understand that the majority still believe in this myth only 13 years later.
So who flew the planes into the WTC, the Freemasons?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:47 am to UGATiger26
The key to defeating ISIS is cutting off the financial assiztance it gets from Arabs in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. It all smells fishy how these barbarians are highly trained and have advanced weaponry.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:49 am to Ghazi
quote:
ow these barbarians are highly trained
Former Sunni, Iraqi Republican Guard Ba'athists.
quote:
have advanced weaponry
Plunder from defeating the Iraqi army.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:51 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:Why do you assume someone flew planes into the WTC? Oh, that's right, that's what you've been told to believe. You should continue to believe everything the media, government and politicians tell you......because as a group they are so honorable and trustworthy.
People still believe an invisible "superhuman" lives somewhere in the sky. So it isn't difficult to understand that the majority still believe in this myth only 13 years later.
So who flew the planes into the WTC, the Freemasons?
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:53 am
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