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Meanwhile Louisiana remains ranked number 48 in education
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:12 pm
Can you believe people want to fight a more demanding curriculum in Common Core after watching the state spend hundreds of billions on Louisiana schools and getting no real progress?
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:14 pm to I B Freeman
Can you believe that a more demanding curriculum is going to magically make students better thinkers?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:18 pm to I B Freeman
Really, the issue is at home and that isn't changing anytime soon.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:21 pm to I B Freeman
Less film credits = more money for education
Amirite?
Amirite?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:25 pm to I B Freeman
How to fix Louisiana education
Step 1: Vochers for every child so that the parent's and kids can pick where he or she wants to go to school.
Step 2: Let schools pick the kids with an admission process (for atleast grades 9-12)
Step 3: Isolate the problem kids so that you can address the problem not just hide it with the smart kids.
Step 4: Tie gov benefits to a child's performance is school.
Step 5: End this every child should go to college bs. Not every child needs to go to college. If you have a 2.5 and 13 on the ACT you do not need to go to college. You should go to a tech school and learn a skill so you can be a productive member of society. Our high schools should help promote that option for the kids who don't need to go to college.
Step 6: more film credits
Step 1: Vochers for every child so that the parent's and kids can pick where he or she wants to go to school.
Step 2: Let schools pick the kids with an admission process (for atleast grades 9-12)
Step 3: Isolate the problem kids so that you can address the problem not just hide it with the smart kids.
Step 4: Tie gov benefits to a child's performance is school.
Step 5: End this every child should go to college bs. Not every child needs to go to college. If you have a 2.5 and 13 on the ACT you do not need to go to college. You should go to a tech school and learn a skill so you can be a productive member of society. Our high schools should help promote that option for the kids who don't need to go to college.
Step 6: more film credits
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:38 pm to GhostofJackson
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the issue is at home and that isn't changing anytime soon.
whoomp, there it is.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:39 pm to navy
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the issue is at home and that isn't changing anytime soon.
whoomp, there it is.
That is not unique to Louisiana.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:42 pm to I B Freeman
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That is not unique to Louisiana.
I'm well aware ... LA-native ... have lived all over now ... live in SoCar. Public education sucks here, too.
You gonna deny that it's not a major if not the major factor?
Or ... shall we just throw more fricken money at the problem?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:45 pm to navy
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You gonna deny that it's not a major if not the major factor?
Or ... shall we just throw more fricken money at the problem?
No I am not denying it. No I am not going to throw money at it. I am for vouchers for everybody throwing the system as we know it out.
To say that Louisiana is ranked 48th because of parents is to say that parents are better in 47 states and that is BS.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:48 pm to I B Freeman
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To say that Louisiana is ranked 48th because of parents is to say that parents are better in 47 states and that is BS.
no it really is not..just ask the teachers
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:53 pm to tankyank13
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no it really is not..just ask the teachers
How many teachers do you think we have with experience outside the state??
Of course the teachers are going to blame parents.
You don't expect them to accept any responsibility for our dismal ranking do you?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:00 pm to I B Freeman
My wife pours her heart and soul and our money into teaching. She has some really good kids but the lack of success from the students comes from a lack of accountability at home. Why make good grades or behave when there is no consequences.
I don't believe in vouchers. It just becomes a program where as parents will send their behavior or academic problem children hoping the school can fix it.
I do believe in higher performing schools offering vouchers for children. That way the good kids can be pulled out of underperforming schools.
That may feel like I'm throwing the bad schools to the curb but what I would want would be the govt programs and entitlements tied directly to student performance and parental involvement. Your kids are failing and bad you get cut. At some point we are going to have to stop making excuses.
I don't believe in vouchers. It just becomes a program where as parents will send their behavior or academic problem children hoping the school can fix it.
I do believe in higher performing schools offering vouchers for children. That way the good kids can be pulled out of underperforming schools.
That may feel like I'm throwing the bad schools to the curb but what I would want would be the govt programs and entitlements tied directly to student performance and parental involvement. Your kids are failing and bad you get cut. At some point we are going to have to stop making excuses.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:03 pm to I B Freeman
Not looking to argue but the participation rate amongst parents is pitiful. They expect the state to do it all and for them and to have no responsibility. That goes for everything, not just education. Don't be so shocked im drunk im going to bed
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:07 pm to WalkingTurtles
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My wife pours her heart and soul and our money into teaching. She has some really good kids but the lack of success from the students comes from a lack of accountability at home. Why make good grades or behave when there is no consequences.
I guarantee you if I gave your wife the money that the state and your local school boards spends on a classroom of 30 kids she could do 100% better than she does in the situation she operates in now. The number now is $16000 per student. Times thirty that is $480,000 per classroom.
It is stupid for teachers to oppose an all voucher system. Of course there more than a few that do not recognize the opportunity to get the money in their hands.
No school should have to put with kids that will not do the work or parents that will not put forth effort. Kick them out. There is nothing to gain passing them from one grade to another.
That will NEVER happen so long as the school are run by the government.
We half arse do the job with special ed kids, with kids with discipline problems, with kids with bad homes, with smart kids--give the money to teachers and make them educational entrepreneurs and we will have MUCH, MUCH better choices to address our problems.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:08 pm to tankyank13
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Not looking to argue but the participation rate amongst parents is pitiful. They expect the state to do it all and for them and to have no responsibility. That goes for everything, not just education. Don't be so shocked im drunk im going to bed
Ok I will put down as thinking that bad parents are unique to Louisiana and that is the reason for our 48 ranking.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:10 pm to I B Freeman
Take the NOLA publics out of the equation, Louisiana ranks right around the southern average.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:13 pm to I B Freeman
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Ok I will put down as thinking that bad parents are unique to Louisiana and that is the reason for our 48 ranking.
No just think there are more per capita. More broken families, higher incarnation rate, etc they are all related. Doesn't mean there isn't good parents.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:14 pm to I B Freeman
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Meanwhile Louisiana remains ranked number 48 in education
Demographics
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:15 pm to Reubaltaich
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Take the NOLA publics out of the equation, Louisiana ranks right around the southern averag
Are you going to take Atlanta public schools out of Georgia? Memphis out of Tennessee? Little Rock out of Arkansas? Montgomery out of Alabama?
We aren't doing the job. That is simply a fact.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:19 pm to I B Freeman
Good grief people---we didn't even stick with the Iowa test for no child left behind money because the bureaucrats wanted an easier test thus leap was born.
When my kids went to public schools here school might as well have closed the day after the leap test was given. The teachers didn't do hardly anything the last few weeks of school. Heck the schools even turned in their final grades a week before the year ended claiming it took that look to compile the grades. Blame the parents for that.
When my kids went to public schools here school might as well have closed the day after the leap test was given. The teachers didn't do hardly anything the last few weeks of school. Heck the schools even turned in their final grades a week before the year ended claiming it took that look to compile the grades. Blame the parents for that.
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