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The Shooting of Michael Brown: Focus on the Police State; NOT racism
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:18 pm
so there was a shooting last night in St. Louis. it is directly leading to a major "racism in America" campaign by the usual suspects.
sad situation. 2 comments
1. regardless of the underlying scenario, do not resist police. do not flee. do not give them a reason to kill you (they will).
2. the focus of this story should be on the growing police state. don't let the race pimps and race baiters have their way. the police state affects all of us, regardless of our religion, creed, skin color, gender, or sexual orientation
never forget Boston
#NeverForget
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The shooting sparked a furious backlash.
Further shots were heard as police arrived immediately after the shooting but no one was injured as angry residents screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police.” More than 60 area police officers responded to the scene.
Louis Head, Brown’s stepfather, held a sign that said: “Ferguson police just executed my unarmed son!!!”
Tension flared off and on through the evening. A calm settled over the area after mourners gathered at a prayer circle — watched over by a St. Louis County police officer sitting atop a SWAT vehicle — and then a candlelight vigil as darkness fell.
sad situation. 2 comments
1. regardless of the underlying scenario, do not resist police. do not flee. do not give them a reason to kill you (they will).
2. the focus of this story should be on the growing police state. don't let the race pimps and race baiters have their way. the police state affects all of us, regardless of our religion, creed, skin color, gender, or sexual orientation
never forget Boston
#NeverForget
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
upvote
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
War on drugs spawned the police state. Racism played a part in the war on drugs.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:42 pm to bradwieser
9/11 and the Iraq war probably have 1000x more impact on the development of the police state
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
9/11 and the Iraq war probably have 1000x more impact on the development of the police state
Don't stop there. Please expound on this.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the police state affects all of us, regardless of our religion, creed, skin color, gender, or sexual orientation
I agree. And I don't have any data on this (if you have some please let me know) but it just seems as if unarmed black people get killed more than unarmed individuals of other races.
Again, I have no stats to back up that statement up, so it may be totally erroneous. But if thats the truth then that lends credence to this being both a police state AND a racial issue.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
1. regardless of the underlying scenario, do not resist police. do not flee. do not give them a reason to kill you (they will).
Eric Garner wasn't resisting or threatening anyone before the NYPD snuffed him out.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:56 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I agree,what happen to this young man is horrible. I'm not sure of the exact circumstances on what happen there. But I do wonder why the show of such force? What would have happen if someone on either side had made a mistake? Would the police have gunned down citizens upset over the death of a young man? Was their show of force adding fuel to a smoldering fire? If they wouldn't have ,would riots had broken out? IMHO the millions that are being spent on this nice military gear could be put to much better use with in the communities they use the gear on.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:57 pm to Sentrius
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Don't stop there. Please expound on this.
money, money, money
excess soldiers coming home in policing agencies
aren't many of the weapons/autos that these departments are buying formerly military?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
I agree. And I don't have any data on this (if you have some please let me know) but it just seems as if unarmed black people get killed more than unarmed individuals of other races.
Again, I have no stats to back up that statement up, so it may be totally erroneous. But if thats the truth then that lends credence to this being both a police state AND a racial issue.
One of the reasons I admire Rand Paul is because he's willing point to the fact that the war on drugs is only being fought in Black neighborhoods despite the fact that the rate of White drug use is similar to the rate of Black drug use.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
I would say 9/11 and Iraq war have expanded the resources for the police state, the war on drugs has been the justification for its use in local police departments against americans. Absent the need to fight the war on drugs there is no justification for the militarization of local police.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:59 pm to Sentrius
quote:
9/11 and the Iraq war probably have 1000x more impact on the development of the police state
Don't stop there. Please expound on this.
9/11 freed the government to do what governments always do.
Restrict our freedoms under the guise of protecting them.
The Patriot Act ring any bells?
There was nothing patriotic about the patriot act.
This is how liberty dies
It was the first step towards the police state we are headed for.
How many of you trust the police when they are in your rear view mirror.
I have never broken a serious law in my life yet I fear the police.
Freedom?
Welcome to the American Police State.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:01 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
but it just seems as if unarmed black people get killed more than unarmed individuals of other races.
well i don't have stats, and it is probably true. 2 issues
1. your concentrations of violence are typically in black, urban areas. this means your more aggressive policing will be there. add in a culture that already detests police and i can TOTALLY see how this would lead to more direct confrontations
2. when a tragedy like this shooting occurs, there is an overabundance of discussion on racism. this means that we see/hear more about this occurring to minorities,so we perceive that it happens to them more
#2 is actually why i made this thread. the twitterverse is fricking addicted to posting similar tragedies...if the victim was black
there are lots of threads on this site about similar incidents happening to white people, and the discussion is always about aggro policing and it doesn't become a meme to promote race baiting
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:02 pm to trackfan
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Eric Garner wasn't resisting
bullshite
i'm not saying his arrest was justified and the force certainly was not, but he resisted.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm to trackfan
quote:He was resisting. Not enough to throw him into a chokehold, but he was definitely resisting.
Eric Garner wasn't resisting or threatening anyone before the NYPD snuffed him out.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:06 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
Again, I have no stats to back up that statement up, so it may be totally erroneous. But if thats the truth then that lends credence to this being both a police state AND a racial issue.
I would guess that police shoot/kill mentally ill people at a very high rate, white or black.
I can think of 5 or so non-blacks who were unarmed and shot by cops this year.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:06 pm to trackfan
quote:
Eric Garner wasn't resisting
Wow
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:07 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
He was resisting. Not enough to throw him into a chokehold, but he was definitely resisting.
absolutely
go to 2:20
they are trying to handcuff him and he turns, pulls his hands away, etc
that is classic resisting
again, i agree with you...it didn't justify the force, but don't give them an excuse. this is perfect example of what not to do
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't think this has anything to do with the "police state" issue. This is more about training cops to handle issues without shooting someone.
How incompetent do you have to be to let someone who you are placing into a police care to run away from you?
How incompetent do you have to be to let someone who you are placing into a police care to run away from you?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:12 pm to mmcgrath
i think those issues fall hand in hand
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