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If it Weren't for PC, Would More People Denounce the Epidemic of Muslim Violence

Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:58 pm
I can only surmise that a lot of folks are intimidated by the threat of being labeled as hateful and/or Islamophobic. Otherwise, the relative silence doesn't make any sense. Muslims are clearly perpetrating worldwide acts of unspeakable violence, and claiming their "God Manual" as justification for doing so.

kind of sad when this plethora of violence by one particular group is predominantly ignored, yet the media scrambles to try and connect the Tea Party to any and all shooting incidents in America. How could this monumental double standard be explained as anything other than the biased, left-wing media practicing the phony, agenda-driven tenets of political correctness?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:00 pm to
Obviously. The ones deflecting because they worship at the tiny balls of the community organizer are a lost cause though.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:03 pm to
I think most Americans despise Islamic ideology.

ISIS is probably the most despicable institution since the soviet central planners, and most Americans, with the exception of students in Austin, Oberlin, Yale, etc, absolutely hated those planners.

Like the cold war however, you have the greatest sympathy for Islam in Austin, Oberlin, Yale, etc.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:04 pm to
Do people really think that denouncing the violence will do anything? It might make you feel better, but the world has been a violent place for a long long time. "Denouncing" it doesn't do anything.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:10 pm to
no, the natural position of a liberal is to defend people that oppress women
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:13 pm to
I think we at least need to call it what it is. When a man yells "Allah Akbar" before he shoots and kills several military personnel, I dont think our President needs to lie and label it as an act of workplace violence.

And yes, I do believe we need to have an honest discussion about the bloodthirsty, violent nature of Islam. Unfortunately, 85% of our media is only interested interested in falsely promoting this absurd notion that the country is overrun with Islamophobes.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:13 pm to
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I think most Americans despise Islamic ideology.


explains why so many of western governments(including ours) are busy importing as much of it as they can.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:28 pm to
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I think we at least need to call it what it is.


And that would do what? Suddenly stop the violence? It's not going to do anything.

And if we are going to have a discussion about Islam, then we have to admit it isn't a monolithic group of people. If you want to talk about the massive problem of Wahabi's/Salafi's (who have the strictest interpretation), then let's talk about them. Not only does this group make up a significant portion of the population of the wealthiest Arab countries, it is also probably the fastest growing group.



Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:37 pm to
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then we have to admit it isn't a monolithic group of people.


This
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:04 pm to
I don't think anybody is saying that they are a monolithic group.

I think what some of us are saying, and what I am certainly saying, is that far too many of them are perpetrating violence in the name of their religion. Contrary to what a few folks here have said, there's no other group of people on the planet who are terrorizing most of the rest of the world in the way that Muslims are.
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:19 pm to
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How could this monumental double standard be explained as anything other than the biased, left-wing media practicing the phony, agenda-driven tenets of political correctness?


By ignorance.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57835 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:26 pm to
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I think what some of us are saying, and what I am certainly saying, is that far too many of them are perpetrating violence in the name of their religion. Contrary to what a few folks here have said, there's no other group of people on the planet who are terrorizing most of the rest of the world in the way that Muslims are.



Since it's inception, Islam has been spread by the sword and is an oppressive and violent religion with little tolerance for other faiths. The instance by some that it's anything else just doesn't jive with history and facts.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:13 pm to
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is that far too many of them are perpetrating violence in the name of their religion.


Sure, and my point is that denouncing Islam in the media will do nothing to curb that violence. They don't care. There are both political and religious concerns that drive the violence, but ultimately, it is about angry young men who have no other prospects who become willing recruits for leaders who seem to have all the answers to their problems, and who give these men a purpose. In countries where there is significant wealth, you don't see this type of violence even if you see the same Salafi's. I won't pretend Salafi's aren't the only Muslim group causing problems, but they are the best at projecting their ideology across the globe.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:22 pm to
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Do people really think that denouncing the violence will do anything? It might make you feel better, but the world has been a violent place for a long long time. "Denouncing" it doesn't do anything.

Pretending it isn't connected to Islam certainly enables its continuation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:24 pm to
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In countries where there is significant wealth, you don't see this type of violence even if you see the same Salafi's.


So Bin laden was poor? No prospects? The princes of Saudi Arabia, who fund terror enterprise after terror enterprise, have no prospects? You're simply wrong.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:39 pm to
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So Bin laden was poor? No prospects? The princes of Saudi Arabia, who fund terror enterprise after terror enterprise, have no prospects? You're simply wrong.


They fund it, but there isn't jihadi violence in those countries. Qatar and the Emirates have significant Salafi populations as well, and minimal violence. Obviously if you think that I meant those that profit from the violence in other countries are the same as the foot soldiers who actually commit the violent acts then we are not talking about the same thing. Again, the Salafi's are a massive problem. It is only in recent years that people even have begun to differentiate Salafi's and Wahabi's from other Muslim groups.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:43 pm to
So if we kill all the Saltinis and Wasabis, we can have peace?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:01 pm to
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Saltinis




If you can defeat people who insist on returning to Islamic orthodoxy, then possibly.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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69895 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:06 pm to
Can the other Muslims stop making their women dress like ghosts?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57835 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:13 pm to
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Pretending it isn't connected to Islam certainly enables its continuation.



Heck, the main networks are still petrified to label ISIL as terrorist!
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