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Gay Bar Cited for Discriminating against Gays

Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:00 pm
Those discriminating bears

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What happened last summer is that a gay man named Vito Marzano, dressed in drag from a fundraiser elsewhere, wanted to enter the Wrangler. He was denied entry. The bar claims it wasn't because he was cross-dressing but because his image didn't match his driver's license. The bar had been previously cited for serving somebody underage and were now being extra cautious. For those not in the know, gay bars have a history of being targets of scrutiny by authorities looking for excuses to raid them and shut them down.

Marzano is not transgender and has made no claims that he is. Nevertheless, the State of Colorado has determined that the Wrangler has likely violated Marzano's right to public accommodation on the basis of his appearance.

The state's report notes that the bar has a dress code forbidding high-heeled shoes, wigs or appearance-altering make-up or strong perfumes. While the report states there's nothing wrong with the dress code itself, it has determined that the bar uses this code as an excuse to exclude overly feminine women or transgender people. The Wrangler is a "bear" bar, whose target demographic is the burlier of the gay men. What's alarming about the ruling is that it seems to act as though catering to a particular demographic is in fact evidence of a likelihood of discriminating against others:

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"[T]he Respondent caters to a gay subculture known as "Bears," which are bisexual or gay males which tend to place importance on presenting a hypermasculine image and often shun interaction with men who exhibit effeminacy. This is evident from the pictures and statements made by employees regarding the "Bear" culture of the club and several links on the Respondent's webpage referencing "Bear" clubs … ."



insanity
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:05 pm to
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"[T]he Respondent caters to a gay subculture known as "Bears," which are bisexual or gay males which tend to place importance on presenting a hypermasculine image and often shun interaction with men who exhibit effeminacy. This is evident from the pictures and statements made by employees regarding the "Bear" culture of the club and several links on the Respondent's webpage referencing "Bear" clubs … ."


Kind of puts Obama's constant ranting of "The bear is loose!" into perspective, doesn't it?
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:05 pm to
So it's a jocks bar for gay men that excludes the wimpy types.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:05 pm to
Inane in the membrane.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:07 pm to
Like the one dr steve brule went to

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

a jocks bar for gay men

more like hairy lumberjack bar
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:13 pm to
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more like hairy lumberjack bar




Oh I'm a lumberjack and that's OK
I sleep all night and I work all day

I cut down trees, I skip and jump,
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing,
And hang around in bars.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:15 pm to
Looks like their own activism just bit them in the arse.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

more like hairy lumberjack bar
This is what I envisioned. blue oyster bar from Police Academny
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:17 pm to
Are there different kinds of gay bars?
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Are there different kinds of gay bars?
Are there different kinds of bars?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:53 pm to
One more quiver in Rand Paul's arsenal.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:58 pm to
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The state's report notes that the bar has a dress code forbidding high-heeled shoes, wigs or appearance-altering make-up or strong perfumes. While the report states there's nothing wrong with the dress code itself, it has determined that the bar uses this code as an excuse to exclude overly feminine women or transgender people. The Wrangler is a "bear" bar, whose target demographic is the burlier of the gay men. What's alarming about the ruling is that it seems to act as though catering to a particular demographic is in fact evidence of a likelihood of discriminating against others:




It isn't really "catering" to a particular demographic to deny people entry for looking overly feminine. That's really just straight discrimination and sounds like the suit is right on to me.



Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Are there different kinds of gay bars?


No. Of course not. THey are all exactly the same.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 5:00 pm to
"Bear" is like the Blue Oyster Bar from Police Academy, right?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 5:01 pm to
Don't gays dislike drag-queens and trannies? I thought I heard that somewhere.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 5:13 pm to
I support the right of this private buisness to accommodate or refuse service to whomever they choose.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71069 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 6:33 pm to
quote:


It isn't really "catering" to a particular demographic to deny people entry for looking overly feminine. That's really just straight discrimination and sounds like the suit is right on to me.


No, it isn't. You just can't dress a certain way.

By your "logic", a No Shirt No Shoes No Service sign discriminates against rednecks.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Are there different kinds of gay bars?



Not sure if serious.
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