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A return to their ancient homeland? Nonsense.

Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:27 am
Does anyone here operate under the notion that in 1948 Israelis were given back the homeland that was stolen from them by Muslims in the 7th century?

Google "Khazaria" for a bit of enlightenment.


Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:33 am to
Rex;dGoogle
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:35 am to
Rex;dr

Voted Down


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

the notion that in 1948 Israelis were given back the homeland
No. They weren't given their homeland. They took it.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:37 am to
Rex, insane.
Posted by Semaphore
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:37 am to
I suppose the ancient homeland business is meant to shore up some moral claim.

But I don't assign the moral high ground to either side.
So, morality being equal between them, I favor the side who that we have more in common with and is more likely to win militarily.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by rb
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:39 am to
Tried googling but auto corrected to Kardashians.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:42 am to
Cliff notes, Rex?

ETA, the Indians once owned America. We took it; we won't give it back. And if they start lobbing rockets from their Reservations... .

If the Arabs want to live and prosper...they ought to drop it and take the SUBSTANTIAL MONEY that would flow in from the World...just to get this stuff off everybody's conscience. They won't. "Pride goeth before a fall".

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:44 am to
Does anyone here operate under the notion that in 2014 Hispanics are taking back the homeland that was stolen from them by the United States back in the 19th century?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:46 am to
Dr;Dv
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

If the Arabs want to live and prosper...they ought to drop it and take the SUBSTANTIAL MONEY that would flow in from the World.

That's a pretty dubious claim considering the Palestinians were not compensated for the lands and farms and homes taken from them just a few short 75 years ago.

I think we should take the opposite tact. .. help the Israelis relocate from a territory to which they had no valid historicsl claim.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:52 am to
,
quote:

Tried googling but auto corrected to Kardashians.


The Kardashians are probably Khazars, as would be Jews with such names as Kaplan and Kagan.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

"Khazaria


I did look up Khazaia, Am I supposed to read about the Jewish Khazarian Kings listed?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:57 am to
quote:

.. help the Israelis relocate from a territory to which they had no valid historicsl claim.
That is as dumb a statement as its antithesis of Israeli entitlement
Posted by Tim
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:59 am to
I guess we should give Texas back to Mexico?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:59 am to
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I did look up Khazaia, Am I supposed to read about the Jewish Khazarian Kings listed?

The Jewish Khazarian kings were converts to the religion, not displaced Hebrews.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

That is as dumb a statement as its antithesis of Israeli entitlement 

Is it because I misspelled "historical"?
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:07 am to
Rex; dr


Voted down!


Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:13 am to
Grats. Solid down vote.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:19 am to
quote:

That's a pretty dubious claim considering the Palestinians were not compensated for the lands and farms and homes taken from them just a few short 75 years ago.


Meh. The problem with "homeland" argument is that depending on far back in history you go, there are many different people that can claim that area as homeland.

Now, Palestine was never a state but rather a generic name for a region within the Ottoman Empire. When the Turks lost WWI, one the consequences was the British Mandate for Palestine which affected the regions of Transjordan and Palestine. The Mandate sped up the process of Jewish relocation to present day Israel and set parameters for statehood.

I don't really favor either side in this conflict and I don't see either side as having a moral claim to the area.
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