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Could the USMNT succeed playing a 352?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:23 pm
I know there is a thread below talking about how formations really don't exist and that's largely true, but it seems like the 3 man backline is experiencing a bit of a renaissance in recent years.
In my mind, if the US were to do this in the near future, you'd have Besler, Cameron and one of Brooks, Gonzalez, Ream, Packwood etc. as your 3-man backline with Fab and Yedlin as your two wingbacks. I feel like Fab showed in Brazil how good he is at streaking up and down the field to provide on the attack while also not hanging out the backline to dry on defense. Yedlin has good recovery speed, and while his defense still needs A LOT of work, you can afford him to push up the field because you have 3 guys on the backline instead of 2.
Am I crazy or does this at least sound plausible?
In my mind, if the US were to do this in the near future, you'd have Besler, Cameron and one of Brooks, Gonzalez, Ream, Packwood etc. as your 3-man backline with Fab and Yedlin as your two wingbacks. I feel like Fab showed in Brazil how good he is at streaking up and down the field to provide on the attack while also not hanging out the backline to dry on defense. Yedlin has good recovery speed, and while his defense still needs A LOT of work, you can afford him to push up the field because you have 3 guys on the backline instead of 2.
Am I crazy or does this at least sound plausible?
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 5:24 pm
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:31 pm to Broski
Absolutely viable. I think looking forward to 2018 Bradley, Mix, and one of the young mids like Trapp, Zelalem, or others could certainly form a viable triangle with Johannsson and Altidore up top. Or even a 3-4-3 depending of development of some wide attackers like Shea (no, I won't give up hope), Zardes, Green, etc.
ETA: I still think a back 4 is still our best bet, but introducing and using a back 3 would be a good wrinkle for now with future possibilities. We have quite a few versatile defenders/midfielders.
ETA: I still think a back 4 is still our best bet, but introducing and using a back 3 would be a good wrinkle for now with future possibilities. We have quite a few versatile defenders/midfielders.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:18 pm to Broski
Not only could they but they should. The personnel fits better with wing backs and 3 CBs.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:24 pm to Broski
It could work but they need to put that system in place now and work on it. Arena played a 3 man system when it was in vogue, but playing a 3 man system against one striker is very confusing for CB's. If it was drilled into the veterans, we could comfortably move between a three man and a four man system. Then we could be a very fluid team. It would be a nice option to have. I don't think it is likely though.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:01 pm to crazy4lsu
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Arena played a 3 man system when it was in vogue,
Yeah, but I think our personnel now is much more suited for the 3-man backline than we were under Arena.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:59 pm to Broski
It has nothing to do with personal. Against 2 strikers often teams played with a 3 man back line to have a spare man. The reason 3 man back lines have fallen out of favor is because against a lone striker it becomes 3 v 1 at the back. That is the biggest problem in switching is that you possibly lose an advantage somewhere else on the field.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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Against 2 strikers often teams played with a 3 man back line to have a spare man. The reason 3 man back lines have fallen out of favor is because against a lone striker it becomes 3 v 1 at the back. That is the biggest problem in switching is that you possibly lose an advantage somewhere else on the field.
But as was stated in the other thread, even though formation sheets list one striker, few teams actually play with 1 lone attacker.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:02 pm to Broski
Again, it becomes an issue of who to mark, when to press, etc, which becomes rather complicated. A lone striker moving across the field horizontally can cause massive problems, especially with movement from deeper in midfield. Hence why we would have to try it from now onwards.
The only reason we can even consider it is because Geoff Cameron has the ability to move into midfield to make up a disadvantage. That sort of versatility makes the prospect more viable, though still unlikely.
The only reason we can even consider it is because Geoff Cameron has the ability to move into midfield to make up a disadvantage. That sort of versatility makes the prospect more viable, though still unlikely.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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The only reason we can even consider it is because Geoff Cameron has the ability to move into midfield to make up a disadvantage. That sort of versatility makes the prospect more viable, though still unlikely.
Let me be clear, I don't expect this to happen. And the reason I originally thought of this was because of Cameron's ability to move into the midfield. I failed to mention that though.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:10 pm to Broski
Cameron's size, technique and ability to play across the backline and DM means we have a lot of options to get our best players on the field. I would love it if we experimented, and though it's unlikely, I wouldn't rule it out completely. I could see situations where we might try it.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 1:45 am to crazy4lsu
You can play a 3 man back line against lone strikers. The defenders just have to communicate well and stay connected. We also have some fairly athletic CBs (especially the younger guys), so that helps in covering.
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