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White house response to NYT article on legalizing weed

Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:19 pm
LINK

frick Em.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:25 pm to
Yep, those poor "school aged children" that will no doubt have the reefer madness if weed was legalized for those 21 and up
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:34 pm to
So I'm assuming the whitehouse believes that Alcohol is worse than MJ?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:36 pm to
Marijuana use affects the developing brain.

So does booze.

A recent study in Brain reveals impairment of the development of structures in some regions of the brain following prolonged marijuana use that began in adolescence or young adulthood.[1] Marijuana use is associated with cognitive impairment, including lower IQ among adult chronic users who began using marijuana at an early age.[2]

Substance use in school age children has a detrimental effect on their academic achievement.

So does booze

Students who received earned D’s or F’s were more likely to be current users of marijuana than those who earned A’s (45% vs. 10%).[3]


Marijuana is addictive.

Maybe, but so is booze

Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to marijuana. This number increases to about 17 percent among those who start young and to 25-50 percent among people who use marijuana daily.[4]


Drugged driving is a threat to our roadways

So is drunk driving


This is a weak, half-assed, regurgitated response much like their foreign policy
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:40 pm to
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So does booze.
quote:

So does booze
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Maybe, but so is booze
quote:

So is drunk driving
I just want to be sure I understand....booze is bad, so is pot, booze is legal so pot should be also.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

I just want to be sure I understand....booze is bad, so is pot, booze is legal so pot should be also.


Abso-fricking-lutely.

Why is one legal and the other not?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:47 pm to
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I just want to be sure I understand....booze is bad, so is pot, booze is legal so pot should be also.


I never said booze was bad but MJ is, at worst, just as dangerous and detrimental as booze.

The only difference is that booze is widely available and a celebrated part of our society and pot is demonized by urban legends, stereotypes and politically motivated junk science. I just don't understand how the administration can put out these "facts" knowing full well that MJ has never been thoroughly researched here in the US.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28813 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:48 pm to
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I just want to be sure I understand....booze is bad, so is pot, booze is legal so pot should be also.
In a word, yes.
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14657 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Students who received earned D’s or F’s were more likely to be current users of marijuana than those who earned A’s (45% vs. 10%).


Correlation =/= causation
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:55 pm to
I am on the fence with legalization of mj. Part of me thinks it's no different than alcohol. If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?

Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:58 pm to
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I am on the fence with legalization of mj. Part of me thinks it's no different than alcohol. If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?

Does it matter? Seriously.

What does having them illegal do?

People who want them, get them. People, like me, who do not want them, will continue NOT to do them even if legal.

shite, how much have we spent on the "drug war" and it has done absolutely nothing to stop drug use.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:06 pm to
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am on the fence with legalization of mj. Part of me thinks it's no different than alcohol. If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?


I think MJ, at the very least, would be a good pilot study for the possible legalization of other drugs (addiction rates, etc).
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
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If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?


Why should it stop anywhere? Why does any drug need to be illegal?
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
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If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?


Holy shite would you have said this after prohibition ended?

You're a pussy.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I am on the fence with legalization of mj. Part of me thinks it's no different than alcohol. If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?


Opiates were sold over the counter in the 19th and early 20th century. Some people got addicted. But society as a whole didn't collapse.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:12 pm to
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If mj gets legalized what becomes the next drug to get legalized? Where does it stop?


Hopefully it doesn't.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Marijuana is addictive. Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent


WOW.

SO ADDICTIVE GUYS, LESS THAN ONE IN TEN.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:15 pm to
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Hopefully it doesn't.
Get legalized or doesn't stop?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:20 pm to
Am I wrong to find this surprising? I thought this admin was gonna be cool?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10048 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:24 pm to
From link.

quote:

Any discussion on the issue should be guided by science and evidence, not ideology and wishful thinking.

If this is the basis of law, then we've got some serious overhauling to do in regards to alcohol, tobacco, and firearms - not to mention pretty much every other law on the books.
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