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Would you pay .10 cents extra per gallon of gas for a BR loop and Bridge?

Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by Lookin4Par
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:40 am
Our biggest hurdle to creating a loop around Baton Rouge including a westside connector is lack of funds. Would you vote for a gasoline tax to build a Loop, Bridge south of Plaquemine, westside connector, and an expansion of highway 30?
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:41 am to
Tollways...
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70249 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:42 am to
Who would be paying that tax? BR metro people only?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:42 am to
My sister works for DOTD as an engineer. She siad yesterday why we don't have funds and why Texas does to do all these loops and maintenances: tolls.


You want nice shite, institute tolls so we don't have to rely on the federal funds to do shite.


It's that simple. But the populace and the politicians don't want to do it.
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:43 am to
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Would you pay .10 cents extra per gallon of gas for a BR loop and Bridge?


No, because that extra tax would remain after the construction and become permanent.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31711 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:43 am to
I would be ok with it, but I'd rather charge it directly to the user like the other states do it. A buck or a buck 50 to cut traveling through BR down to 10 mins would be well worth it.
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4584 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:44 am to
I do want all these good things, but I don't want to pay for it. Unless someone else pays for it, then that's fine too.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:44 am to
Throw in 4-laning 42, 44, 74, and 70 and you've got a deal!
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:44 am to
How about a toll
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70249 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

You want nice shite, institute tolls so we don't have to rely on the federal funds to do shite


Once the tolls are instituted, they funds still need to be administered properly.

Look at the CCC.
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 am to
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Once the tolls are instituted, they funds still need to be administered properly.



Then let a private group build the bypass/loop and let the tolls go directly to them.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70249 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:46 am to
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Then let a private group build the bypass/loop and let the tolls go directly to them.


I have no problems with that.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Our biggest hurdle to creating a loop around Baton Rouge including a westside connector is lack of funds


I thought it was finding land or agreeing where it should go?

I think it should be a tollway
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

It's that simple. But the populace and the politicians don't want to do it.


That's because Louisiana residents don't trust their politicians with toll money because of how often, in the past, that toll money went to line the pockets of some politician while the infrastructure crumbled.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
stop putting misinformation out there. the whole loop, if built in it's entirety, is monumentally expensive, but it is and has always been planned to be a toll road built in pieces and "paid for" by the people who are using it...tolls.

it's not surrounding parishes "paying for a baton rouge problem," and it's not only baton rouge paying for connectivity for surrounding parishes.
Posted by Lookin4Par
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
I think all surrounding parishes should pay. Livingston, EBR, WBR, Iberville and Ascension. St. James should chip in as well to relieve some congestion from the sunshine bridge and area.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:48 am to
It is my understanding that in Texas, there are international companies (several Japanese) that build some of the major highways and then collect the tolls over the life of the road. Not sure if this LA has considered this or not.
Posted by Lookin4Par
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:52 am to
Even those that will never cross the newly constructed roads will benefit from its creation. I'm willing to bet that there are plenty of EBR citizens that are hoping for these bypasses to come along as well, even though they may never use them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Even those that will never cross the newly constructed roads will benefit from its creation. I'm willing to bet that there are plenty of EBR citizens that are hoping for these bypasses to come along as well, even though they may never use them.


What killed the loop project the last time was actually this mindset. The southern portion was swinging so far south that it was practically unusable. Everyone in favor of the loop was only hoping the loop would go through so that other people would use it so that they could have I-10/12 to themselves. Most loop proponents in Baton Rouge were the ultimate NIMBYs. They wanted everyone else to have the loop built through their homes so those other people could use the loop, leaving I-10 free for them to use.

The northern loop MUST be built. The southern end would be a great bonus, but could be rendered unnecessary (though it still would be beneficial) by widening Highway 30 and making improvements to state highways in Ascension and Iberbille Parishes.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:59 am to
i agree 100% with that. i'm just pointing out there is already a ton of misinformation already out there about the loop, and the OP may lead people to believe there is a tax on everyone, even people who would never use it, being considered.
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