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Greg Maddux HOF selection question
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:35 am
I was reading about today's MLB Hall of fame inductees and noticed Greg Maddux got 97% of the vote from writers. Statistically he was the most consistent pitcher of his era with 355 career wins and never was connected to PEDs (Clemens)
With that said, how can any voter ego watched baseball between 1988-2008 not feel Maddux is worthy of the HOF? What's their justification for not voting? Do some just straight up refuse to vote for first timers?
In a couple years if Ken Griffey Jr. Isn't infamous I think those who refuse to vote should have their credentials taken away.
With that said, how can any voter ego watched baseball between 1988-2008 not feel Maddux is worthy of the HOF? What's their justification for not voting? Do some just straight up refuse to vote for first timers?
In a couple years if Ken Griffey Jr. Isn't infamous I think those who refuse to vote should have their credentials taken away.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 11:36 am
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:36 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Old arse baseball writers do that because Babe Ruth was not unanimous
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:38 am to CunningLinguist
Do they ever justify their reasoning? I'm guessing these old timers aren't on Twitter to respond to their ballots.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:39 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
No one has ever been unanimous so current writers think they need to be old school and keep that going
Dumb
Dumb
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:40 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
If you don't vote for a 300 game winner not connected to PEDs you should lose your vote.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:41 am to CunningLinguist
I would liken it to movie reviewers who love to be contrarians. I guarantee you that when Gone With The Wind came out there was at least one reviewer who called it the 'worst movie of the year.' It's an ego thing ... 'look at me...I'm unique. People will flock to me to justify my opinion. I'll be on TV.'
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:41 am to CountryVolFan
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:42 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Voters are allowed a certain amount of votes, many will leave off a sure thing like Maddux in order for another player to receive votes and stay on the ballot or get in.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:42 am to CountryVolFan
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If you don't vote for a 300 game winner not connected to PEDs you should lose your vote.
THIS
ANd why Randy Johnson should get a high % next year
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:43 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:
No one has ever been unanimous so current writers think they need to be old school and keep that going
This.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:44 am to tduecen
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Voters are allowed a certain amount of votes, many will leave off a sure thing like Maddux in order for another player to receive votes and stay on the ballot or get in.
Stupid IMO. If you have the honor of voting for the HOF then you should do just that, not vote to keep guys on the ballot.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:46 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Sometimes someone deserving gets left out in a crowded class....
Some voters have special ties/relationships and they will vote for a player with no shot out of respect for his career.
Sometimes I have issue with how the voters vote but I understand those two lines of reasoning.
Some voters have special ties/relationships and they will vote for a player with no shot out of respect for his career.
Sometimes I have issue with how the voters vote but I understand those two lines of reasoning.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:46 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
i'll play devil's advocate. if you know without a shadow of a doubt that Maddux or whoever is getting in, he doesn't need 100% as opposed to 95% to be "more in"
so you take that vote and spread it to guys who might need it to stay on the ballot, a guy who is at 70% or a guy who has a goal of just getting 1 HOF vote
personally i think you should name 10 guys on your ballot and vote for 8 with two "backups". if one or two of the 8 gets 90% or more, then the votes count for the other two guys you named
so you take that vote and spread it to guys who might need it to stay on the ballot, a guy who is at 70% or a guy who has a goal of just getting 1 HOF vote
personally i think you should name 10 guys on your ballot and vote for 8 with two "backups". if one or two of the 8 gets 90% or more, then the votes count for the other two guys you named
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:47 am to chalmetteowl
Other issue is when voters only put 4 guys when they are allowed 10
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:50 am to tduecen
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Other issue is when voters only put 4 guys when they are allowed 10
Like last year when nobody got in.
I think Biggio and Randy Johnson get in next year
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:52 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Pedro Martinez as well... 3 man class before veterans committee
Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:59 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Why do you want KGJr to be infamous?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 12:05 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Sheffield, Delgado, and Nomar will get votes along with Percival, Clark, Gordon, and Ryan because well people liked them
Posted on 7/27/14 at 12:05 pm to DaBeerz
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Why do you want KGJr to be infamous?
He was my favorite player as a kid. He didn't juice. He was the best player at his position for a decade. No off the field problems. Etc....
Posted on 7/27/14 at 12:09 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
11 voters left Babe Ruth off their ballots
37 voters left Walter Johnson off their ballots
Cy Young wasn't a first ballot hall of famer
37 voters left Walter Johnson off their ballots
Cy Young wasn't a first ballot hall of famer
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