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Would the Allies have won WWII without America getting involved?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:01 pm
I'm watching a documentary on AMC about it now and I have always wondered about my question above. When I was a kid, I was under the impression we won the war alone; The more I read about it, the more I raise the question above. I know the OT has a lot of experts, what are y'alls thoughts?
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:02 pm to Nativebullet
quote:why do care about that old shite
I'm watching a documentary on AMC about it
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:03 pm to Nativebullet
They couldn't have defeated Japan without us. Probably could have slowly worn out Hitler and the Italians though.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:03 pm to Nativebullet
Europe? The allies would be under German rule now!
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:05 pm to Cosmo
Hell no. Pacific wouldn't have happened without us and D Day wouldn't have worked if we hadn't already started pushing up through Italy.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:06 pm to LSUandAU
Negative ghost rider.
It wasn't so much the manpower we supplied that destroyed the axis as it was the logistics.
We had the luxury of not having our country bombed so the factories were working uninterrupted to build bullets, bombers and battleships.
It wasn't so much the manpower we supplied that destroyed the axis as it was the logistics.
We had the luxury of not having our country bombed so the factories were working uninterrupted to build bullets, bombers and battleships.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:07 pm to jbgleason
Likely not. But let's be honest, a huge part of the Nazi breaking point was them pushing into Russia during the Winter. They got greedy and they lost both fronts. Otherwise, it's undecided in Europe.
But generally, the answer is No. Without America, the world would not look like it does today.
But generally, the answer is No. Without America, the world would not look like it does today.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:07 pm to Nativebullet
Britain would have held it's own. Germany didn't have the navy to mount a land invasion of Britain.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:09 pm to Nativebullet
I think all that would have been left is Germany, Britain, and Russia. France would be in northern Africa.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:11 pm to LSUandAU
Europe? The allies would be under German rule now!
The Germans would have destroyed the Soviet Union.
Unfortunately, there would be very few Jews left in the world.
The Germans would have destroyed the Soviet Union.
Unfortunately, there would be very few Jews left in the world.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:12 pm to Nativebullet
The answer is easily no..
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:20 pm to Kcrad
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The Germans would have destroyed the Soviet Union.
Where was the Soviet Army on June 6th 1944?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:23 pm to OleWar
The Germans never had a chance...and the German army (as well as Hitler) well knew this. That being said the American-made half ton truck probably helped the Soviet cause as much as their own ground soldiers.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:26 pm to Nativebullet
Hard to say. Probably would have fought to a stalemate after the death of Hitler. Russia would have eventually pushed back the eastern front. Britain holds out and aids resistance movements in Scandinavia and France.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:27 pm to asurob1
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The Germans never had a chance...and the German army (as well as Hitler) well knew this.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:30 pm to OleWar
Oh wow...
Russia's part in WWII was extremely downplayed by U.S. propaganda during the Cold War. 80% of Germany's military deaths were on the Eastern Front.
80%
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Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.
Russia's part in WWII was extremely downplayed by U.S. propaganda during the Cold War. 80% of Germany's military deaths were on the Eastern Front.
80%
LINK
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the Soviets, who routinely faced battles involving several hundred thousand soldiers on both sides, did not regard the 67,000 Germans defending Normandy on June 6th as serious opposition.iii To the Soviets, fighting 390,000 Germans in the area of a single city (Stalingrad) was meeting serious opposition
Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:36 pm to Nativebullet
The European Theater would have ended in a stalemate, had Germany not declared war on the United States. The Eastern Front would have settled into a WWI-Esque battle. Germany would never have been able to invade Britain, unless they were left to build up another war machine in post war peace time. Hitler sealed his fate by launching Barbarosa and declaring war on the US, if he had only done one or the other I believe part of Europe would still be under Nazi rule. This is my opinion
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:36 pm to Huey Lewis
Russia had Hitler back peddling before America even got involved. Russia would have locked all of Europe down if they wanted to. Japan only attacked America as a distraction to get to an oil supply because we had cut off their previous one.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:39 pm to Nativebullet
No the British during World War II made exactly 0 transport ships, 0 transport aircraft, had limited manpower, and most importantly were being bankrupted by the expense. Hitler should of never declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. He actually had sentiment in his favor in some circles of the US. The two or three front war Germany fought was also his downfall.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:40 pm to Huey Lewis
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Fact is...U.S. invasion into Europe did comparatively little to cause a German defeat. More like it stopped Russia's westward advancement.
fact.
The Germans failed to knock out the Soviets quickly and it was all over after that...it just took a few years to go down.
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