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To Ease Crisis, U.S. May Vet Young Refugees Inside Honduras

Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:00 pm
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Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.

If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.

Critics of the plan were quick to pounce, saying it appeared to redefine the legal definition of a refugee and would only increase the flow of migration to the United States.


Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:02 pm to
So it's official now? Anyone who comes here illegally from central america is a refugee?
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
19368 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:03 pm to
They can all be shipped to the shithole that is Tallulah, LA. They'll want to go back ASAP
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:03 pm to
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2175 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:25 pm to
Wow...everybody and their mother would apply for this. I can't see how American officials will be able to figure out who gets granted refugee status and who does not.

Do the parents get to come? What happens to these kids when they get here?

my home country is so F'ed up
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:26 pm to
Fundamentally Changing America.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:28 pm to
Yeah, but there won't be any cool songs about a chartered flight of death like there are about trains. Johnny Cash singing about country clubs instead of Folsom Prison would've been pretty boring.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:31 pm to
Hope and change - on your nickel!
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2175 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:40 pm to
A few weeks ago I bought a ticket for my niece and we toured Arizona State and some of the community colleges here in PHX. She is a hs junior and a good student that has taken AP stats and calc, was in the math club and does all kinds of extra curriculars. We talked about all the things she needs to do in order to get accepted at an American university like deal with USCIS, take the ACT/SAT the TOEFL and so on. She would like to study something like international relations but will probably go into STEM because we both agree that those fields offer the best chance for her to get hired on on a legal work visa when she graduates college....
This just makes me think we are going about it the wrong way trying to earn her way to the US and all....Honestly..it might be easier if she just gets her illegally.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:21 pm to
hondurantiger, hope you don't mind me asking but are things really as bad in Honduras as everyone says? I mean the violence,etc. Thanks.
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2175 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:04 am to
It is bad in the sense that i beleive the violence reaches everybody. Just for me i have had a second cousin get killed because he refused to pay extortion money to the gangs, a former teammate get killed because he was mugged and resisted, and a buddy from college that went back after graduating was kidnapped. I have been mugged as has my father many times...and these were not people looking for trouble. I think you have to be extremely cautious...go to work and go home. If you are out at night, then your chances of bad things happening are high. This is middle to upper class areas. You can stay somewhat safe..but you have to be extremely cautious and almost paranoid. In the barrios man....I dont even dare set foot..they are pretty lawless. It's sad. This is in the bigger cities..in smaller towns ..it is somewhat better.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:11 am
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:10 am to
Wow. I'm sorry for your loss and what you and your family have to endure. It's a shame the Honduran government does nothing about it. Honduras is a beautiful country, it must be so very sad to see what is happening.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:19 am to
Very interested to know how countries like Honduras became so corrupt? Was it always this way since it's birth?
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:35 am to
I hope he comes back and answers you Rev. I'd like to hear his take. I think most of the violence and corruption stems from drug cartels. It was a strange place in the 80s, no thanks to the CIA and others, but it had gotten past that and the tourism business had taken off. Then the cartels came, like they did in Mexico and other Central American countries, and with them came the violence and corruption.
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2175 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:59 am to
I don't even know. Its complex but in the end it begins with corruption. Right now for example the former head of our version of social security is on the run because he was embezzling. People die waiting for care VA style and this sob was buying his mistress in chile fake tits. Mario Zelaya....google the pos. My mom taught his kids in school. The guy just bailed on his family. Can you imagine the soulless scum you have to be to leave your wife and young kids. These types of scandals are the norm. When people see this kind of stuff they lose hope, become cynical and say f' it. If you are able like me..you get the hell out. If not...then why not turn to crime. At some point the narcos realized they had the perfect mix to set up shop. A bunch of pissed off kids they can recruit and corrupt politicians they could own. This is when the violence skyrocketed. Don't get me wrong, i am not some criminal apologeist. I think there is a big diff b/w the us and honduras. In the us there is plenty of opportunity. In Honduras for many...there just is not and it is not because of the man and the oppressive rich or some bs like that..it is about corrupt assholes like mario zelaya. Screw that guy.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 1:20 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:51 am to
They're not refugees. They're illegal aliens. This is just more of a Odummy's ignorant treasonous games.
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