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Report: Obama sends team to consider deploying Guard

Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:02 am
Considering following Perry's lead?

President Obama has dispatched a team to Texas to review whether deploying National Guard troops could help the crisis at the border, White House officials told Reuters on Wednesday.

The team consists of officials from the Defense Department and the Department of Homeland Security. Reuters reported they left on Tuesday and will be on the ground at the border on Thursday.

A White House official told Reuters that Obama directed Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to send the team to the border to conduct their evaluations and submit recommendations to the administration.


Until now, the administration had opposed Republicans’ suggestions to send the National Guard to the border. In a meeting with Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) a few weeks ago, however, Reuters reported that Obama said he was possibly open to a deployment as a temporary fix.

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Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78922 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:09 am to
What actually has been done to stem the flow and handle this clearly FNC generated crisis? Anything at all?

Never thought I'd see the day when Barry takes a play out of Perry's playbook
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:11 am to
This is what I hear:

"He appointed a secretary to review the applicants for a committee who will consider the idea of sending guards to the border?"
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4341 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

What actually has been done to stem the flow and handle this clearly FNC generated crisis? Anything at all?
Barry is going to find out and let you know. Stay tuned and take everything he tells you to heart.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78922 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:23 am to
Perhaps he'll hear about his preventative actions in tomorrow's paper?
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16250 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:35 am to
Posted by NorthEnd
Member since Oct 2007
2141 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:37 am to
He should send them to all gulf ports---you know, like Jacksonville and Savannah
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16716 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:10 am to
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Presidents during a crisis


You do know that Reagan was in the middle of a month long vacation when the soviets shot down the US Boeing plane, and he had to be persuaded by his staff to come back to Washington to give his speech 4 days later?

This is not unique to Obama.

And as for deploying the guard, either Obama has done this once before, or it was Bush, so there is a precedent.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:14 am to
Can someone tell me why a state needs approval from the federal executive branch to deploy their NG? Or am I misunderstanding?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Can someone tell me why a state needs approval from the federal executive branch to deploy their NG? Or am I misunderstanding?



They don't. But it cost a lot of money. If the federal government activates the guard the FEDGOV pays for it.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:17 am to
Ah, I see. Hm.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:18 am to
Leading from the rear.



Again.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4341 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:18 am to
quote:

This is not unique to Obama.
The frequency is unique.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:21 am to
quote:

This is what I hear:

"He appointed a secretary to review the applicants for a committee who will consider the idea of sending guards to the border?"


Sounds like Kathleen Blanco's response to every damn thing during her administration, except her trade mission to Cuba.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34872 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:31 am to
So, if Obama sends the guard, instead of Perry....does that mean that Obama runs the show? I.e., Obama can then order the Guard to move back from the Border 50 miles, like he did the Border Guard? Bottom line...border remains open?

Ignore Obama's (supposed) INTENTIONS...judge him by his RESULTS.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16716 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:41 am to
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The frequency is unique.


bullshite.

quote:

from January 2009 to October 31, 2012, Obama spent all or part of 72 vacation days in a variety of places, mostly Hawaii in the winter and Martha's Vineyard in the summer. That's about 10 weeks away in three-and-a-half years, hardly extravagant. Through May 18, according to data from CBS's Knoller, he also visited Camp David 22 times, spending all of part of 54 days there.

What about his predecessors?

· In 1798, President John Adams left the capital for seven months to care for his ailing wife Abigail; his enemies said he practically relinquished his office.

· Thomas Jefferson and James Madison routinely went away for three- and four-month stretches.

· Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War, was blasted for spending about 25 percent of his time away from the White House.
· Dwight Eisenhower took long summer breaks in Denver and spent almost every single weekend at Camp David.

· John F. Kennedy rarely spent a weekend in the White House, staying at family homes in Palm Beach, Hyannis Port, and the Virginia countryside.

· Lyndon Johnson spent 484 days in five and a half years at his Texas ranch.

· Ronald Reagan was away for 436 days, usually at Rancho del Cielo (his mountaintop retreat in California) or Camp David.

· Bill Clinton, who didn't own a vacation home, loved to party with his elite friends in Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons.

· George W. Bush spent 32 months at his ranch (490 days) or Camp David (487 days) — an average of four months away every year.



This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77934 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:45 am to
Needs to send the Corps of Engineers and start building the next Great Wall
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Needs to send the Corps of Engineers and start building the next Great Wall


Well they have been acquiring property rights, etc. for the wall-started back in Bush era. I have no idea if it they still have that mission or if they completed it. Doubt a wall would work anyway.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:55 am to
WHOOOOOOOOO That means we get a new czar with a full staff, upscale offices and a big T&E budget. Maybe even a batch of new computers with scrathicable HD's.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The frequency is unique.
quote:

bullshite.

quote:
from January 2009 to October 31, 2012, Obama spent all or part of 72 vacation days in a variety of places, mostly Hawaii in the winter and Martha's Vineyard in the summer. That's about 10 weeks away in three-and-a-half years, hardly extravagant. Through May 18, according to data from CBS's Knoller, he also visited Camp David 22 times, spending all of part of 54 days there.

What about his predecessors?

· In 1798, President John Adams left the capital for seven months to care for his ailing wife Abigail; his enemies said he practically relinquished his office.

· Thomas Jefferson and James Madison routinely went away for three- and four-month stretches.

· Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War, was blasted for spending about 25 percent of his time away from the White House.
· Dwight Eisenhower took long summer breaks in Denver and spent almost every single weekend at Camp David.

· John F. Kennedy rarely spent a weekend in the White House, staying at family homes in Palm Beach, Hyannis Port, and the Virginia countryside.

· Lyndon Johnson spent 484 days in five and a half years at his Texas ranch.

· Ronald Reagan was away for 436 days, usually at Rancho del Cielo (his mountaintop retreat in California) or Camp David.

· Bill Clinton, who didn't own a vacation home, loved to party with his elite friends in Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons.

· George W. Bush spent 32 months at his ranch (490 days) or Camp David (487 days) — an average of four months away every year.




Why are you posting about vacations when the cartoon shows him playing golf. Think of it as a metaphor for Obama's being detached and ineffective. You could argue about whether the ineffectiveness is intentional or not.

Oh and your jimmies. They're rustled.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:58 am
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