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Why Texas won't go blue anytime soon (this likely applies to other states too)

Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:16 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:16 am
First off,people have to stop viewing the Obama coalition has permanent. As the first black man to occupy the office, Obama had something going for him that no one had or will have in the future, ever. Every single article I read on "OMGZ LAITNOS MAKING EVERY STATE BLUE, RABBLE RABBLE" seems to accept Obama's performance among certain groups as a trend, rather than an anomaly.

Now to the important part. Here are some Texas Graphs/visuals:

Latino's make up 38% of Texas population



But just 26% of eligible voters


and only 22% of voters in 2012 (in which Obama ran the greatest GOTV in the history of the entire universe)



wapo article on texas actually getting redder

new republic article

Latinos have been increasing dramatically in number in texas since the 90s. When will this "magical" turning point come?
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:23 am
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:18 am to
#factswithcharts
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:20 am to
He thinks being an "eligible voter" matters.

Look at him. Look at him and laugh.



Just kidding.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:22 am to
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Ryne Sandberg


Off topic but I love love love your sig.

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79168 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:22 am to
I'm surprised it's only 38% frankly. Houston (Harris County) where I live is over 50% Latin. San Antonio is equally or even moreso populated with Latinos as well. Everywhere down in the valley (Mcallen, Corpus, Brownsville, etc.) is poised to become Latino dominated as well.

38% is hard to believe - where did you find that info?
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:23 am to
Thanks bud. Probably one of my favorite pic of LSU fans ever. Can't remember where I found it, but it just made me laugh so hard.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:24 am to
quote:

38% is hard to believe - where did you find that info?
2010 census
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:29 am to
This thread ignores the main reason Texas could go blue: liberals invading from California.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:31 am to
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This thread ignores the main reason Texas could go blue: liberals invading from California.
True, but many of the Californians leaving are business people who were already republican.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:33 am to
GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes. To say there isn't a problem is being naive.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
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79168 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:34 am to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:36 am to
quote:

GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes. To say there isn't a problem is being naive.
Who said there isn't a problem. The GOP of today is going through the same rough skid that democrats went through in the 80s. The only difference is that the GOP, right now, is immensely powerful at the state level.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:37 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84868 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:54 am to
They've done a great job gerrymandering, no question about that.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:57 am to
quote:

True, but many of the Californians leaving are business people who were already republican.


How do you know they are republicans much less business people?

And what kind of republican are they?

The business and free markets kind of republican or social issues republican who may or may not be turned off by the perceived stances on social issues the GOP has and vote democrat and ignore the dem's economic stance?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:00 am to
quote:

They've done a great job gerrymandering, no question about that.
. Maybe if your party can get its suckers out there during midterm elections, you wouldn't have this problem. At least white voters don't only show up after being prodded to the polls by a president's GOTV.

Hope you enjoy the inexplicable black and brown disappearing act this November.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:03 am to
It seems to me that the important question(s) revolve around this: which blue states (Presidential elections) are slowly turning red? I do not see any in this category.

I do see some Red states slowly losing their solid "redness." North Carolina, Indiana, Arizona, and maybe even Georgia.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:08 am to
quote:

He thinks being an "eligible voter" matters.

Look at him. Look at him and laugh.


this! Sadly democrats have control and it is never going to change under our current system.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 5:57 am to
quote:

Posted by Draconian Sanctions They've done a great job gerrymandering, no question about that.


How do you gerrymander a state to hold nearly 60% of the governor houses? They'll likely take te senate this year to go along with a huge advantage in the house.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18666 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 6:38 am to
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The business and free markets kind of republican or social issues republican who may or may not be turned off by the perceived stances on social issues the GOP has and vote democrat and ignore the dem's economic stance?


I would live to see data comparing that type of switch voter (fiscal conservative who votes D because he is "turned off" by a Rs social stance compared to a social conservative who just stays home because the GOP keeps nominating liberal light candidates.

I bet the social conservatives not voting way way outnumber the fiscal conservatives who vote against their monetary interests.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:57 am to
quote:

They've done a great job gerrymandering, no question about that.


Yeah, "gerrymandering" the state border at the Red river was genius>

idiot
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