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Radio host Bill King called Chavis an average DC and not an elite DC

Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:14 am
He said he could never stop Spurrier during his heyday at Florida...Could anyone stop Fla. then except for maybe Fla. St.? King also said that Chavis is made to look better than he is due to the talent at LSU..LSU will always have at least top 15 talent, so I guess Chavis just lucked up, right?

Seems like Chavis has done ok beating Spurrier on the reg at S Carolina along with Auburn and stopping Manzel when no one else could. And we've been in the games with Bama.

Bill King seems like a nice guy and he's entitled to his opinion.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:17 am to
OMG EVERYBODY PANIC!
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:17 am to
Well, Chavis didn't do all that great when the talent left Tennessee

But with the players for his system, I don't think there's a better DC in the country
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107635 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:19 am to
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Well, Chavis didn't do all that great when the talent left Tennessee


All elite DC's need something to work with, otherwise they're just average too.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:19 am to
I like Bill King. Used to listen to him on WLAC in Nashville (clear channel like WWL). But he's wrong on this.

And,Tennessee did a good job with Florida from 1998-2001.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:21 am to
How's the ole ball coach doing without the talent he had in Florida back in the day?
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:22 am to
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Well, Chavis didn't do all that great when the talent left Tennessee


What DC does great without talented football players?
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:23 am to
Bud Foster
Mickey Andrews
Ellis Johnson
Charlie Strong
Will Muschamp
Bo Pelini
Nick Saban


All of these guys have seen poor years on D when there is a talent deficit.

IMO, Chavis had one of his best years this year. That defense was depleted on the DL as bad as I've ever seen it. Multiple true Freshman seeing significant playing time, and they ended the season as a top 15 defense.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:23 am to
I don't disagree with his assessment.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53770 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:24 am to
Chavis' big knock towards the end at UT was not evolving to the spread and Urban Meyer.He was viewed at as a yesteryear coach unable to adapt along with Fat Phil.

I think Chavis has proven he has learned and evolved as a coach, which may or may not have been a problem while at UT, but some Tenn natives will never shake that impression.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:26 am to
Well you should. There is not a coach alive who can win big without talent across the board. Air heads that spout that crap just sound stupid to me. Nick Saban at ULL ain't winning Nattys'.
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:27 am to
Let's extrapolate this for a bit. It's probably good if he's just an "average DC". If Chavis is just an average DC, then that bodes very well for us long term. We can field elite defenses with average DCs.

(Note: I don't believe he's an average DC, just extrapolating)
Posted by bighead7
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
326 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:30 am to
Johnny Football would disagree
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:32 am to
Bill King's opinion is the same as Chavis'. He said last month on the radio that he has been fortunate in his career to coach extraordinarily talented young men. Makes everyone look a lot smarter.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

How's the ole ball coach doing without the talent he had in Florida back in the day?


Three straight 11 win seasons.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:34 am to
I stopped reading once I saw Bill King
Posted by Beats2Geaux
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Johnny Football would disagree


Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32494 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:35 am to
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Three straight 11 win seasons.

I was about to post this. He is just the best coach in the history of USCe ever that's it.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:42 am to
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quote:
Three straight 11 win seasons.

 
I was about to post this. He is just the best coach in the history of USCe ever that's it.


That isn't saying much. What does he have to show for it? Chavis has made him look like shite when LSU has played USC.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77976 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:43 am to
BURN SIRIUS/XM TO THE GROUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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