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Bloggers, Surveillance and Obama’s Orwellian State
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:30 am
“I know — because I covered them — that this was said of Clinton and Bush, and it will probably be said of the next White House,” said Carney in a recent New York Times Magazine interview. “I think a little perspective is useful…It is a serious, serious matter to leak classified information. Some of the debate around this kind of forgets how serious that is.”
But, it could also be the changing nature of the relationship between the media and the White House. At a recent event at the New America Foundation, journalists and historians challenged Carney, arguing that this White House has been more secret than previous occupants.
“Increasingly, the Obama White House has become so brittle, and so controlling of the message, that people are afraid to respond to me,” said Kimberly Dozier, a former Associated Press reporter. She was one of the journalists whose phone records were obtained by the Department of Justice last spring during its investigation into a leak of classified information about a failed Al-Qaeda plot. The scope of that investigation, some critics said, was unprecedented overreach.
Thom Shanker, the Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times, noted that his employer has implemented rigorous standards to balance the security risks of reporting classified information with the public’s right to know.
“When we reported on WikiLeaks, we had conversations with all of the relevant agencies, and the takeaway is that the American public learned how it was operating,” said Shanker. “We asked then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who was a former C.I.A. director, what he thought about the WikiLeaks story, and he said, ‘As an intelligence professional, I am very upset whenever this happens, but I can tell you that I don’t see any specific damage to our national security programs because of the way the information was handled.’”
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But, it could also be the changing nature of the relationship between the media and the White House. At a recent event at the New America Foundation, journalists and historians challenged Carney, arguing that this White House has been more secret than previous occupants.
“Increasingly, the Obama White House has become so brittle, and so controlling of the message, that people are afraid to respond to me,” said Kimberly Dozier, a former Associated Press reporter. She was one of the journalists whose phone records were obtained by the Department of Justice last spring during its investigation into a leak of classified information about a failed Al-Qaeda plot. The scope of that investigation, some critics said, was unprecedented overreach.
Thom Shanker, the Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times, noted that his employer has implemented rigorous standards to balance the security risks of reporting classified information with the public’s right to know.
“When we reported on WikiLeaks, we had conversations with all of the relevant agencies, and the takeaway is that the American public learned how it was operating,” said Shanker. “We asked then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who was a former C.I.A. director, what he thought about the WikiLeaks story, and he said, ‘As an intelligence professional, I am very upset whenever this happens, but I can tell you that I don’t see any specific damage to our national security programs because of the way the information was handled.’”
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:35 am to Jbird
Less about surveillance, more about free press.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:35 am to The Third Leg
quote:Yep sadly it is.
Less about surveillance, more about free press.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:35 am to Jbird
quote:
“Increasingly, the Obama White House has become so brittle, and so controlling of the message, that people are afraid to respond to me,” said Kimberly Dozier, a former Associated Press reporter.
You mean the WH doesn't want its employees leaking classified information to AP reporters?
Oh dear.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:36 am to TT9
Glad to see that there are issues we can all be unified over.
Whether you like it or not, this will probably become the norm, so don't be surprised if the next Republican president is just as secretive.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:37 am to Navytiger74
quote:Yeah scare tactics to control a message equals afraid of leaking classified.
You mean the WH doesn't want its employees leaking classified information to AP reporters.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:38 am to Jbird
quote:
“[Bush administration] lawyers told me that they wanted to prosecute as many leaks then, but technology had not moved on to the point where it is today, where it is so easy to track peoples’ electronic footprint,” said Dozier, who is now a contributing writer at The Daily Beast. “There are simply more tools for the Department of Justice now than they had back then.”
You will continue to see the Feds operate in this manner, regardless of partisan lines.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:39 am to The Third Leg
quote:Sadly true as well.
You will continue to see the Feds operate in this manner, regardless of partisan lines.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:41 am to Jbird
quote:
Yeah scare tactics to control a message equals afraid of leaking classified.
“Increasingly, the Obama White House has become so brittle, and so controlling of the message, that people are afraid to respond to me,” said Kimberly Dozier, a former Associated Press reporter. She was one of the journalists whose phone records were obtained by the Department of Justice last spring during its investigation into a leak of classified information about a failed Al-Qaeda plot. The scope of that investigation, some critics said, was unprecedented overreach.
Thom Shanker, the Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times, noted that his employer has implemented rigorous standards to balance the security risks of reporting classified information with the public’s right to know.
Pretty sure this is mainly about classified information. And yes, the control of information becomes more critical when means of dissemination are so diffuse and every schmuck with a keyboard and an opinion thinks he's Bob Woodward.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:42 am to Jbird
Maybe Obama should invite Colbert to Roast him at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
Colbert calls out the incestuous relations between those that cover and those that are covered.
2006 WHC Dinner
Colbert calls out the incestuous relations between those that cover and those that are covered.
2006 WHC Dinner
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:44 am to Navytiger74
It's as much to choke out any possible message other than the exact one you want.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:25 am to Jbird
quote:
But as citizen journalism – people without an official press affiliation reporting on personal blogs – becomes more popular, the way the military and intelligence community is reported on could shift. Random bloggers need not follow the professional standards by which journalists abide.
Matthew Pinsker, a professor of history at Dickinson College, pointed out that this “new” form of journalism is a throwback to previous models that did not value objectivity and impartiality. In some ways, bloggers use the same practices of 19th Century pamphleteers, where anybody with a hand-crank could stand on a corner and shout to a group of people.
If these bloggers can’t hold themselves to the same standards of journalists in the 20th Century, “maybe the Obama administration is justified in pursuing leakers in a harsher way,” Pinsker said.
That depends on who the "journalists" are. Some bloggers have higher standards than, say, MSNBC. But the bolded statement should be really telling.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 11:28 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:29 am to TerryDawg03
What are these standards they speak of? I'm honestly quite curious.
Who woulda thunk it? Opinions must be varnished prior to dissemination. Sounds free.
Who woulda thunk it? Opinions must be varnished prior to dissemination. Sounds free.
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