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Australian judge sites Homosexuality, says incest may no longer be a taboo
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:43 pm
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Judge in Australia says incest may no longer be a taboo and the only reason it is criminal is potential birth abnormalities, which can be solved by abortion
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A judge in Australia has been criticised after saying incest may no longer be a taboo and that the community may now accept consensual sex between adult siblings.
Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and "unnatural" but is now widely accepted.
He said incest was now only a crime because it may lead to abnormalities in offspring but this rationale was increasingly irrelevant because of the availability of contraception and abortion.
"A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner," the judge said.
"If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you'd invariably have, they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."
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Judge Neilson made the comments during the trial of a brother charged with raping his younger sister. The man has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting his sister when she was 10 or 11 years old in 1973 or 1974 but has pleaded not guilty to charges relating to sex they had in 1981, when she was 18 and he was 26.
"By that stage they are both mature adults," the judge said.
"The complainant has been sexually awoken, shall we say, by having two relationships with men and she had become 'free' when the second relationship broke down. The only thing that might change that is the fact that they were a brother and sister but we've come a long way from the 1950s – when the position of the English Common Law was that sex outside marriage was not lawful."
The comments were labelled misogynistic and "completely disgraceful" by Sally Dowling, the crown prosecutor, who has asked an appeal court to appoint another judge.
"The reference to abortion is particularly repellent," she said.
Dr Cathy Kezelman, an advocate for preventing child sex abuse, said incest was horrific, regardless of the ages of those involved.
"The relational betrayal of the horrors of incest between a brother and sister of any age is abhorrently criminal," she told The Sydney Morning Herald
How long until we start seeing brothers & sisters marry?
Now that I think of it, I wonder if it's already legal for two brothers or two sisters to marry in states where they allow gay marriage?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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How long until we start seeing brothers & sisters marry?
Or people marrying their pets??
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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How long until we start seeing brothers & sisters marry?
Not a big fan of history?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:45 pm to Darth_Vader
I never understood the opposition to incest and inter-family marriage, to be honest.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:46 pm to Darth_Vader
This is fricking sick. Wonder what local Aussies think about this judge. Hopefully there's a push back against this moron.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to Darth_Vader
Honestly if they're 18 and its consensual, I could care fricking less. Its time to stop judging other people for what they do in their own damn bedroom.
That being said, if they have a child, let's just shoot them both and be done with it.
That being said, if they have a child, let's just shoot them both and be done with it.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."
We warned you this would happen.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I never understood the opposition to incest and inter-family marriage, to be honest
Ehhhhh...I guess....
The disturbing part is the part about the birth defects. Meh, just kill the baby. Easy enough.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I never understood the opposition to incest and inter-family marriage, to be honest.
Are you a closet bama fan?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to Rohan2Reed
quote:Why? Besides the risk of defects, why is it so outrageous?
This is fricking sick
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I never understood the opposition to incest and inter-family marriage, to be honest.
As long as I am not forced to pay for the upbringing of their waterhead child, I don't give a frick what they do.
I think it's disgusting, but it's not my decision to make.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:50 pm to HempHead
quote:You have been programmed to think that
I think it's disgusting,
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You have been programmed to think that
It's biological programming, the reason we are repulsed by it is because it's an ineffective way to spread our DNA.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:51 pm to HempHead
And why not polygamy too? Why can't one marry their brother and sister and both parents?
How would that affect the death taxes?
How would that affect the death taxes?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:52 pm to joshnorris14
quote:Doesn't mean we should have laws against it.
reason we are repulsed by it is because it's an ineffective way to spread our DNA.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:54 pm to joshnorris14
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Not a big fan of history?
You need to go see the history picture thread on the OT if you're really wondering about me and history.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:55 pm to joshnorris14
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How long until we start seeing brothers & sisters marry?
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Not a big fan of history?
Nor a fan of the Old Testament either, lots of incest there.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:56 pm to joshnorris14
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It's biological programming, the reason we are repulsed by it is because it's an ineffective way to spread our DNA.
The same could be said about homosexuality.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You have been programmed to think that
Yes, by natural forces.
fricking your sister doesn't hurt anybody, but it's not exactly conducive to evolutionary success.
King Charles II of Spain says hello.
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