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The Public is Turning Against the Cops. This trend will continue...
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:30 pm
quote:Nobody Believes Them Anymore
After nine hours of deliberation, a jury has found Adrian Perryman, 52, not guilty on all four counts of aggravated assault on a peace officer charges.
He was accused of shooting and wounding a member of SAPD’s Tactical Response Unit during a raid on Perryman’s home in the 1200 block of West Magnolia in the pre-dawn hours of October 26, 2010.
Whether police announced their arrival during a raid at the home of Perryman was the key point of disagreement during closing arguments Tuesday during Perryman’s trial.
“He said he didn’t hear, ‘Police, police - - search warrant,’" Perryman’s attorney Tony Jimenez told the jury.
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Prosecutors reminded the jury of the testimony of several officers last week. Testimony they argued that calls into question Perryman’s account of the events that night.
They testified that they shouted, “Police! Police!” as they came through the door and again once inside the home.
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:33 pm to CptBengal
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They testified that they shouted, “Police! Police!” as they came through the door and again once inside the home.
Why should we believe them?
quote:I don't find that hard to believe at all.
“I find it hard to believe that you would think they would go as far as to risk their lives – have no regard for themselves – by saying they didn’t say a thing,” prosecutor Steve Spier told the jury.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:35 pm to Scruffy
quote:I find it a little hard to believe, given that tons of cops care way more about their safety than anyone elses.
“I find it hard to believe that you would think they would go as far as to risk their lives – have no regard for themselves – by saying they didn’t say a thing,” prosecutor Steve Spier told the jury.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:36 pm to Scruffy
They probably yelled "Here doggy!" as they broke down the door.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:36 pm to CptBengal
What makes police effective is trust between them and the community, allowing the community to inform them of crimes while trusting the police to protect them from retaliation. Since the 80s and increasingly since 2001, the police have been systematically destroying that trust and alienating themselves from communities.
The sad thing is, it doesn't have to be this way. There are still great police departments out there. Seriously, go look at the Ascension Parish Sheriff's Department. Sheriff Wiley's doing work. They had a rash of murders this year on their watch. Do you think any of those murders are unsolved? Do you think any of the murderers are still running free? Hell no. Every single one of them caught inside 3 days. How do they do it? They investigate. They use their police as policemen first, not as tax collectors. They reach out to the community. They teach their officers to always be courteous to civilians and use restraint. They are professional. They only set up speed traps in areas where people drive dangerously instead of where they know they can make the most money. They patrol. They have fast response times despite having a wide area of responsibility. Bottom line, they do their jobs.
Unfortunately, most police departments don't do this anymore.
The sad thing is, it doesn't have to be this way. There are still great police departments out there. Seriously, go look at the Ascension Parish Sheriff's Department. Sheriff Wiley's doing work. They had a rash of murders this year on their watch. Do you think any of those murders are unsolved? Do you think any of the murderers are still running free? Hell no. Every single one of them caught inside 3 days. How do they do it? They investigate. They use their police as policemen first, not as tax collectors. They reach out to the community. They teach their officers to always be courteous to civilians and use restraint. They are professional. They only set up speed traps in areas where people drive dangerously instead of where they know they can make the most money. They patrol. They have fast response times despite having a wide area of responsibility. Bottom line, they do their jobs.
Unfortunately, most police departments don't do this anymore.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:37 pm to kingbob
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They use their police as policemen first, not as tax collectors. They reach out to the community. They teach their officers to always be courteous to civilians and use restraint. They are professional.
This is the crux of the whole issue.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:38 pm to CptBengal
Couldn't tell from the article, but did they even raid the right house?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:40 pm to kingbob
my wife and I enjoy our informative murder porn, every cold case ever features some retired detective peacocking about solving the case when in fact they didn't and it is almost always a cold case due to their own incompetence...usually there is a suspect they have harassed for a couple of decades...so maybe we've been on to it since the 80s, but cops have sucked the big one for far longer.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:47 pm to CptBengal
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They testified that they shouted, “Police! Police!” as they came through the door and again once inside the home.
Its truly sad when I believe a criminals word over a cops...
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:49 pm to CptBengal
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:49 pm to CptBengal
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They use their police as policemen first, not as tax collectors. They reach out to the community. They teach their officers to always be courteous to civilians and use restraint. They are professional.
This is the crux of the whole issue.
Agree for once.
Police who realize their job is to serve us, not to frick with us with a primary goal of extorting money from us would go a long damn way to rebuilding some trust.
Because right now, it is broken and the police as a whole can frick off as far as I am concerned.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I'm lucky I grew up in Ascension Parish. I had nothing but positive interactions with police growing up all the way until I went to college in BR had to interact with the LSU PD, EBRSD, and BRPD. I grew up thinking most cops were like the ones I grew up with, the ones some of my high school friends went to work for. I was dead wrong. How some of these walking penises ever get a badge let alone a gun is beyond me.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:53 pm to kingbob
I've also had positive interactions with cops. The essential question is this...How many of you posters would want to do their job for their pay?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:54 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:58 pm to kingbob
No doubt. I grew up in a suburb of Bham, AL. Had the utmost respect for cops. Neighbor was a cop.
Then at AU, started to get pissed at them for being tax collectors. You drive 40 on a 35 on some 4 lane highways and they sat in certain areas 24 hours a day with the sole purpose of giving out tickets.
Then I moved to Atlanta and started to see some real assholes that were stupid as shite and rude and didn't give a frick that had zero sense.
Then Miami where I read about the millions they steal every year and the constant corruption and cover ups.
Now I'm to the point of saying frick all of em.
Then at AU, started to get pissed at them for being tax collectors. You drive 40 on a 35 on some 4 lane highways and they sat in certain areas 24 hours a day with the sole purpose of giving out tickets.
Then I moved to Atlanta and started to see some real assholes that were stupid as shite and rude and didn't give a frick that had zero sense.
Then Miami where I read about the millions they steal every year and the constant corruption and cover ups.
Now I'm to the point of saying frick all of em.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:00 pm to Zach
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The essential question is this...How many of you posters would want to do their job for their pay?
Why is that the essential question?
I made life choices. there are tons of jobs which may very well be important that I had no interest in either because I was unqualified for, unwilling to do, or simply not interested in.
The fact that I would not do the job of a police officer for what they make in no way justifies any or all actions far too many take...any more than it justifies shitty teachers who have a job I would also not do for that pay.
Unless and until someone can show me an officer who was kidnapped and forced into law enforcement, I'm going to continue to assume they chose that line of work knowing full well of both the risks AND the pay.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:00 pm to CptBengal
Wow. This one ruling is now "The Public?" I bet you thought Romney was gonna win, didn't you, boo?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:02 pm to Negative Nomad
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Remember that when you get into a wreck and have your house broke into. Don't call them.
Don't worry. Would prefer not to. Would prefer handling it myself.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:03 pm to Negative Nomad
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That's the first mistake you made. They don't serve anyone. It's a political feel good term. It's law enforcement not service provider. You aren't their boss.
So the whole "protect and serve" thing is rubbish? I mean I knew it wasn't actually true, but I thought that was their motto or something.
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Remember that when you get into a wreck and have your house broke into. Don't call them. But if you decide to, repeat that statement when they get there.
I've never called a cop for anything, ever. If I got in a wreck I surely would rather paramedics or the FD over an overweight guy with a walkie talkie.
And I don't see how a cop would help if your car was broken into. Does writing some words on a clipboard get your stuff back?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:03 pm to CptBengal
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