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Gitmo prisoners cite Hobby Lobby ruling in religious liberty lawsuit
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:48 pm
And so it begins...
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Lawyers representing Guantanamo Bay prisoners are now invoking the recent Burwell v. Hobby Lobby ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court, arguing that if corporations are allowed to have religious rights, so should detainees.
The motions, which were filed in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Ahmed Rabbani of Pakistan and Emad Hassan of Yemen, asked the court to end the military’s policy of denying Gitmo prisoners the right to observe communal prayer during Ramadan, the Muslim holy month. Two separate courts have previously upheld restrictions on the religious expression of prisoners, arguing that Gitmo detainees are nonresident aliens and thus do not qualify as “persons” under the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act (RFRA). But the new filing points out that this position is inconsistent with last week’s Supreme Courts ruling, which granted religious rights to a corporate “person” — Hobby Lobby — under RFRA.
“Hobby Lobby makes clear that all persons—human and corporate, citizen and foreigner, resident and alien—enjoy the special religious free exercise protections of the RFRA,” the filing reads. “Guantanamo Bay detainees, as flesh-and-blood human beings, are surely ‘individuals,’ and thus are no less ‘person[s]‘ than are the for-profit corporations in Hobby Lobby or the resident noncitizens whom Hobby Lobby gives as an example of persons to whom the RFRA must apply.”
“Thus, Hobby Lobby puts it beyond reasonable dispute that, as ‘person[s]‘ protected by the RFRA, Guantanamo Bay detainees enjoy rights of religious free exercise, including the right to pray in congregation.”
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This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:49 pm to Toddy
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And so it begins...
What begins?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:49 pm to Toddy
Release them from Gitmo into the middle of the Atlantic.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:50 pm to Toddy
I thought Obama shutdown Gitmo? Or is he just waiting to see if he can trade those guys for something?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:50 pm to Toddy
I must have missed where the HL ruling permitted acts of violence in the name of one's religion.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:50 pm to Toddy
Damn, this ruling is really pissing off our liberal friends. Toddy, why are you such an authoritarian in non-gay marriage affairs?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:51 pm to constant cough
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I thought Obama shutdown Gitmo? Or is he just waiting to see if he can trade those guys for something?
Brazil may trade their soccer team for these guys and come out more popular for it if today is any indication.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:51 pm to Toddy
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And so it begins...
You posit that this is the beginning of prisoners filing frivolous lawsuits and citing cases in a dumb way?
This is nowhere near the "beginning"
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:51 pm to Toddy
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And so it begins...
corporations were juridical persons long before the lower courts ruled these persons were nonresident aliens and outside of the RFRA
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:52 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I don't think I've seen more rustled jimmies in my life
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:52 pm to Toddy
It began when we treated these guys like citizens instead of fricking scumbag military combatants.
But I'm glad you found a way to blame religion.
But I'm glad you found a way to blame religion.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:53 pm to Toddy
shite, better reverse the ruling then.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:54 pm to Toddy
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And so it begins...
What begins?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:56 pm to jamboybarry
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What begins?
Another dumb post by Toddy.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:56 pm to Toddy
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And so it begins...
Frivolous and flippant lawsuits have been filed for centuries.
This is nothing new.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:57 pm to Toddy
You didn't read the ruling did you? You should really check out the "least restrictive" portion. It will help with some of your angst.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:57 pm to KosmoCramer
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Frivolous and flippant lawsuits have been filed for centuries.
This is nothing new.
I think the guy claiming he got AIDS from a McRib sandwich may have had a better leg to stand on than these guys.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:58 pm to Tiguar
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shite, better reverse the ruling then.
Rustled jimmies are gonna get rustled.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:58 pm to KosmoCramer
At the risk of being viewed as a liberal, shouldn't they be allowed to pray?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:58 pm to Toddy
Explain to me exactly what this means? I've already seen this on Facebook and asked but wasn't given an answer..
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 6:00 pm
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