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TRSL (teacher) retirement question.

Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18887 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:15 pm
Can someone please explain exactly what UAL is? I understand that I will contribute 8% of my income to retirement, but my employer contributes 28 percent??? There's no way. How does this work?

By law, the employer contribution rate is made up of two components: the normal cost of funding retirement benefits and payment to the System’s unfunded accrued liability. In years past, the employer rate has been the same for all employers. However, since Act 716 of the 2012 legislative session, employer rates are individually determined for each of the retirement system’s sub-plans.

The normal cost portion of each plan's employer contribution rate varies based upon that plan's benefits, member demographics, and the rate contributed by employees. The result is that employer contributions vary slightly from year to year. The shared UAL contribution rate is determined in aggregate for all plans.

The proposed employer contribution rates for Fiscal Year 2014-15 are as follows:

K-12 Regular Plan
Employee Normal Cost Rate = 8.0%
Employer Normal Cost = 5.2454%
Employer Shared UAL = 22.7%
Total Employer Contribution = 28.0%

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Can someone please explain exactly what UAL is?
It's the total amount of excessive retirement benefits teachers are promised to get.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:55 pm to
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LSURussian
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teachers

Chances of jimmy-rustling: 100%
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18887 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:34 pm to
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It's the total amount of excessive retirement benefits teachers are promised to get.
lump sum post retirement?
Is it put into a mutual fund like the 8 percent that I will contribute? I'm guessing no...
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:05 pm to
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Is it put into a mutual fund like the 8 percent that I will contribute? I'm guessing no



it is a pension plan
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:02 am to
The UAL (unfunded account liability) occurs because your predecessor teachers and their employers did not contribute enough money to the retirement plan in earlier years. So now, more money needs to be put into the plan. Making a dramatic increase to the employee share isn't politically feasible, so they hit the employer share with the cost.

And yes, they are paying that much in. Why do you think the school systems are broke?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18887 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:25 am to
Thanks.
quote:

And yes, they are paying that much in.

It just sounds like an unbelievable amount. Therefore, in the even that such a contribution becomes unsustainable I will be prepared.
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