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Why does Cuban seem to keep coming up empty on landing the big fish FA?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:57 am
He seems like a good owner who gives his players everything they need and I'd consider Dallas a big market, but they don't seem to get much consideration the past few times they've wanted to make a play for some of these guys.
I'd just think a perennial playoff team with a recent championship on their resume would be a pretty attractive destination.
I'd just think a perennial playoff team with a recent championship on their resume would be a pretty attractive destination.
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:58 am to BilJ
I bet he is a dick in negotiations. As in, I bet he isn't willing to overpay these guys immediately so their agents turn away.
But thats just, like, my opinion, man.
But thats just, like, my opinion, man.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:00 am to BilJ
I don't think I'd like to be so directly and blatantly micro-managed and scrutinized by the owner of my team. I know owners are supposed to be involved but Cuban is a household name and public figure whereas I can't tell you the names of a lot of owners in the nba.
I'm not saying he is doing anything wrong, just that it could rub some players the wrong way. Lebron has enough pressure on him already, I don't think he'd enjoy Cuban basically in the huddles during the game.
I'm not saying he is doing anything wrong, just that it could rub some players the wrong way. Lebron has enough pressure on him already, I don't think he'd enjoy Cuban basically in the huddles during the game.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:01 am to BilJ
Not much swag comes with playing in dallas bro
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:01 am to BilJ
Jerry Jones
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:09 am to BilJ
They already picked up chandler. In previous years they've picked up Terry and Kidd. Not huge names but still they've done whats needed to make the playoffs and have success.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:09 am to BilJ
He was already quoted this off season when FA started that he wasn't offering max contracts to anyone. Why would any big name player entertain the thought of going there if they aren't getting max money?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:16 am to BilJ
If the spurs have shown anything it's that you don't need superstars. Build a solid starting lineup with a great bench.
Keep in mind how close the Mavs were to knocking off the spurs this year.
Keep in mind how close the Mavs were to knocking off the spurs this year.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:17 am to C
Well, they traded for chandler, they didn't sign him to a free agent deal.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:20 am to BilJ
I think dirk is a problem. For a long time, elite players (their agents) did not see him as a legit title team building block. Then as soon as he does win, he's kinda too old to make long term commitments to. And the Mavs will always play 2nd fiddle (or 3rd) in Dallas.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:21 am to BilJ
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Why does Cuban seem to keep coming up empty on landing the big fish FA?
Just my guesses:
Dallas isn't as good a city as Miami, NYC, LA, etc.
Dirk is the star in Dallas, but he's getting old and isn't part of that team USA vibe that most of these big fish FAs belong to. (LBJ, Kobe, Durant, CP3, etc.)
Some people might look at Cuban in the same light as Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, etc. (Loud mouth who spends money, but doesn't actually listen to people who know what they are talking about.)
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:25 am to Suntiger
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Dirk is the star in Dallas, but he's getting old and isn't part of that team USA vibe that most of these big fish FAs belong to. (LBJ, Kobe, Durant, CP3, etc.)
I'd say this is a big one.
Most of the US stars grew up playing with and against each other in the AAU, college, Team USA, etc., and their life's ambition seems to be to end up on the same team together.
Not only does Dirk not fit that, he's also on his last legs. If someone wanted to join a guy on his last legs, they'd sign with Miami to play with Wade.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:25 am to Suntiger
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(Loud mouth who spends money, but doesn't actually listen to people who know what they are talking about.)
See Gersson Rosas
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:26 am to BilJ
Dallas is a second rate city to big bro Houston which has a history of landing big fish
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:32 am to DrSteveBrule
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If the spurs have shown anything it's that you don't need superstars. Build a solid starting lineup with a great bench.
Did you forget that the best PF of all time is on the Spurs?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:37 am to Kracka
Not because he won't but because they can't.
Even though Dirk took a crazy low deal to come back, Dallas only has around $18 to offer a big fish, this no max
Cubes isn't the type to guy a roster just so he can offer the max
It is annoying though how he always swings and misses.
Even though Dirk took a crazy low deal to come back, Dallas only has around $18 to offer a big fish, this no max
Cubes isn't the type to guy a roster just so he can offer the max
It is annoying though how he always swings and misses.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:48 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Dallas is a second rate city to big bro Houston which has a history of landing big fish
Truff!
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:54 am to ThisWayChad
Or a top 3 pg right now
People act like the spurs are playing with a bunch of scrubs
People act like the spurs are playing with a bunch of scrubs
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:57 am to Dr. Shultz
quote:no stars. All team
Or a top 3 pg right now
People act like the spurs are playing with a bunch of scrubs
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:06 am to teke184
Dirk is older, but I wouldn't call him "on his last legs."
He was still a 20/7 guy last year, though admittedly he's kind of gone back away from his attacking post game that was a huge part of the 2011 championship game as he's gotten older. He's relying on 3s more again, and his deadly midrange stuff.
In addition to everything else that's been thrown out in this thread, It would not surprise me if the FAs and Agents didn't look to kindly on the blowing up of the championship team. They didn't even try to defend, didn't want to pay chandler, and then just traded for the expiring version of his contract that they didn't want while they've been tooling around in the 8/9 position the last 3 years.
He was still a 20/7 guy last year, though admittedly he's kind of gone back away from his attacking post game that was a huge part of the 2011 championship game as he's gotten older. He's relying on 3s more again, and his deadly midrange stuff.
In addition to everything else that's been thrown out in this thread, It would not surprise me if the FAs and Agents didn't look to kindly on the blowing up of the championship team. They didn't even try to defend, didn't want to pay chandler, and then just traded for the expiring version of his contract that they didn't want while they've been tooling around in the 8/9 position the last 3 years.
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