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Is US soccer gaining respect abroad faster than here in the states?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:47 am
I want to put this question up for debate. I really expected most of the world to write us off, but it seems that the US is getting near universal praise from countries around the world for how we played the beautiful game this cup. That said, it seems as if fans here in the US are far more critical of the effort and overall less appreciative of what this team has accomplished. Am I way off-base here?
Never in a million years did I expect to see comments like this on foreign websites:
Still so, so proud of our team and how hard we fought for every minute of the entire tournament. No doubt they have made countless people new lifelong fans of the beautiful game. They deserve all of the respect and praise they're receiving, and I have nothing but high hopes for the future and look forward to the continued growth of this fantastic sport in our awesome country.
Never in a million years did I expect to see comments like this on foreign websites:
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this is about the US, and they deserve huge credit. They played with intelligence and passion, and three of their four games were among the most dramatic and emotional so far in what has been an unusually dramatic and emotional tournament. There must be millions and kids across the nation who have been smitten with the beautiful game in recent weeks, and that bodes well for the future. I must admit I used to be one of those who thought it was nice to have a major sport that´s not dominated by the US, and as such was indifferent at best to their attempts to become a power in the game, but this World Cup has altered my perception. The Americans now appear to have a football culture that takes the best from those that influenced it, but that is still uniquely their own, and that should be viewed as a welcome development.
Still so, so proud of our team and how hard we fought for every minute of the entire tournament. No doubt they have made countless people new lifelong fans of the beautiful game. They deserve all of the respect and praise they're receiving, and I have nothing but high hopes for the future and look forward to the continued growth of this fantastic sport in our awesome country.
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:51 am to cwil177
Absolutely. Most Americans have unrealistic expectations, wondering how in the world a tiny nation like Belgium can beat the mighty USA. Elsewhere in the world, they get it. They know Belgium is one of the best young sides in the world, for example. I hope this doesn't hijack the thread, but I have to think not bringing Donovan has something to do with the respect we've been getting. For a long time, the USMNT was viewed as Donovan (who wasn't too respected outside the US to begin with) and company.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:59 am to thesoccerfanjax
I think they respect the heart and passion the US team plays with. Not so much the technical aspect of their game.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:00 am to cwil177
I guarantee soccer hooligans in Europe have no respect for us. Only nice comments we will get come from journalist and so fourth.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:00 am to reedus23
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I think they respect the heart and passion the US team plays with. Not so much the technical aspect of their game.
This
Alot of the praise was saying how it shows what a united team can do when 13 or 14 players put 100% into every game for their country
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:01 am to reedus23
I'd rather be us than England. No heart, no technical ability. Just big egos, big paychecks, and a lot of disappointment. Their best days are most likely behind them. Like, 50 years behind them.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:02 am to cheesesteak501
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I guarantee soccer hooligans in Europe have no respect for us
If there's anyone's opinion I respect, it's hooligans'.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:11 am to cwil177
Our defense certainly is.
The US is clearly overmatched technically. It's come a long way, but it has a long way to go. Belgium was superior with footwork, passing, and moving in space.
I think with Altidore, the US wins the group and faves France. We need athletes, horses, up front. Dempsey is a warrior but at this level, he is overmatched.
The US is clearly overmatched technically. It's come a long way, but it has a long way to go. Belgium was superior with footwork, passing, and moving in space.
I think with Altidore, the US wins the group and faves France. We need athletes, horses, up front. Dempsey is a warrior but at this level, he is overmatched.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:14 am to thesoccerfanjax
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Absolutely. Most Americans have unrealistic expectations, wondering how in the world a tiny nation like Belgium can beat the mighty USA. Elsewhere in the world, they get it. They know Belgium is one of the best young sides in the world, for example
I agree with this. Americans just tend to have the mentality of, "well, if we try then we'll easily be the best." But there's no immediate gratification with this sport. We started so long after most of these countries and were so far behind them, it will take time to get going. But I think these tournaments have shown the growth of the sport and quality of American players moreso than what the international community had expected and realized.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:15 am to reedus23
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I think they respect the heart and passion the US team plays with. Not so much the technical aspect of their game.
This.
One of my vendors is from Wales and this is what he told me since right after the Ghana game.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:18 am to thesoccerfanjax
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Most Americans have unrealistic expectations
This. Or they don't fully understand the growing process, since the other major American sports have been around their entire lives.
I still see far too many people complaining about draws and penalty and wondering how winning 1/4 games is still progress. Soccer is being more and more accepted, just slowly. The American mindset on regarding sports is just vastly different than the rest of the world.
The good news is that any progress, however slow, is positive. With soccer being a European sport, it's never going to go away internationally. And Americans are going to continue wanting to be the best at whatever we compete in
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:24 am to LSU Red24
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This. Or they don't fully understand the growing process, since the other major American sports have been around their entire lives.
See the MSB thread: How good would the US be if we actually tried? Or something like that.
I think this is also why a lot of them have a problem with the clock/stoppage time. They are conditioned to see players scrambling in the dying seconds to get off some crazy buzzer beater to win the game. They see the players on the field in soccer, playing at the same pace (or slower) as they have been all game and wonder, "WHY DON"T THEY JUST TRY HARDER!? RUN FASTER IDIOT!". It doesn't occur to them that they've been "trying harder" to score for 90 minutes.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:25 am to LSU Red24
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I still see far too many people complaining about draws and penalty and wondering how winning 1/4 games is still progress. Soccer is being more and more accepted, just slowly. The American mindset on regarding sports is just vastly different than the rest of the world.
This is really frustrating for me. Getting out of the group was a huge accomplishment, and some people discount it because our win/loss record isn't "successful" by standards in other sports that don't have group play style tournaments.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:27 am to thesoccerfanjax
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See the MSB thread: How good would the US be if we actually tried?
Well, that was a mistake
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:29 am to cwil177
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Still so, so proud of our team and how hard we fought for every minute of the entire tournament.
Except for the last 10 seconds of the Portugal game
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:29 am to cwil177
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The Americans now appear to have a football culture that takes the best from those that influenced it, but that is still uniquely their own, and that should be viewed as a welcome development.
more kids are playing soccer than when I was a kid, more kids are sticking with the game beyond highschool...the culture around the sport has changed "IMHO" in the last decade, I have enjoyed watching this group play their style, not boring at all.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:04 am to 4thandinches
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Except for the last 10 seconds of the Portugal game
to me shows alot of the unrealistic expectations.
Like people calling for howard to come out and get that ball.
Same with people saying DmB should have pressed CR7 better.
same with the two defenders not on a full hussle back.
Same with Bradley's give away
it was 90+4 minutes into a game that we had to hussle to catch up on in the middle of the rain forest in the middle of the afternoon.
Go catch an extra humid day in BR and go play soccer from 4-6 and tell me how it goes. Then imagine it where you are actually playing a game and not pick up where you have to use tons more energy
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:36 pm to cwil177
I think it is HUGE that fans are disappointed and are actually criticizing. That is a big step forward for the program. No more apathy from 70% of the country.
I think most people are pretty appreciative, but just wanted 1 more win. That's a good thing.
I think most people are pretty appreciative, but just wanted 1 more win. That's a good thing.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:40 pm to reedus23
quote:this. I've been watching the cup here in Germany with all kinds of Europeans, and they all think we were lucky to get out of group play. They don't share the respect as the writer of the linked article.
I think they respect the heart and passion the US team plays with. Not so much the technical aspect of their game.
Howard respek, though.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:47 pm to Spirit of Dunson
My German friend said the Germans were all rooting for us, so take that for what it's worth. They can say we were lucky, but does that change anything? Luck is bullshite. You make your own luck. frick that noise.
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